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Old 02-28-2008, 05:26 PM
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I know you are not crying about the Democrats changing their position on Iraq.

Hell every year since this disaster was started the reason for going has changed.


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Actually my fellow stateman, the reasons were delivered up front. Your problem is that you have been reading/listening to the MSM that have only talked about one reason for going - WMD. Why don't you find me an article by a major media outlet that has discussed the reasons Bush initially said we were going in other than WMD related articles.

Heres a clue, you're going to be searching for a long time.
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He'd never want to find it anyway.
Besides you know by now they are just trying to spin away from what was mentioned. Same routines they have done for 3 years now...zz
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and if its found, GovCheese? if its found, duh? what happens? nothing because you guys dont care anyway, right?
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and if its found, GovCheese? if its found, duh? what happens? nothing because you guys dont care anyway, right?
Given the reasons, do you think monetary costs are important?
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of course monetary costs are important. the war was a mistake.
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In two recent polls, Americans were asked who would handle the Iraq issue better, Obama or McCain? Both show McCain has the edge.

In a February 1-3 CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll, McCain was favored 54 percent to Obama's 45 percent.

In a February 21-25 Los Angeles Times-Bloomberg poll, McCain led on the issue with 47 percent to 34 percent for Obama.

McCain leads on that question not because most Americans support the war, but because he is seen as having stronger national security credentials.

Now, Democrats are pursuing a new argument: They're linking the war with the economy.

"It is becoming clear to all Americans -- Republicans, Democrats and independents -- that by continuing to spend huge amounts on Iraq, we are prevented from spending on desired goals and needs here at home," New York Sen. Chuck Schumer said at a congressional hearing investigating the economic impact of the war.


Obama put it this way in Tuesday's debate: "We are bogged down in a war that John McCain now suggests might go on for another 100 years, spending $12 billion a month that could be invested in the kinds of programs that both Sen. Clinton and I are talking about."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/28/schneider.iraq/


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i suppose, because its definitely not a new argument.

many have talked about the cost of war over the years, obama even brought it up in his anti war speech before the war even began. "undetermined cost." sorry, duh, the war issue is very exposed because its a mistake, and there are many angles from which to pick at it in that regard. thats not the fault of dems.
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of course monetary costs are important. the war was a mistake.
I see you also haven't heard there were many reasons initially presented to go into Iraq. So why don't you research those reasons and present a more informed response concerning cost.

Me, I'm not an imperialist.
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wmd were the primary reason.
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