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Ahmadinejad arrives in Iraq on historic trip
Visit highlights Iran's rising influence on its conflict-weary neighbor

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BAGHDAD - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad arrived Sunday in Baghdad for the first-ever visit by an Iranian president to Iraq, waving as he stepped off his plane to be greeted by representatives of a nation that was once Iran’s bitter enemy

The visit gives Ahmadinejad a chance to highlight the improved relationship his nation has with post-Saddam Hussein Iraq while also serving as an act of defiance toward the U.S., which accuses Iran of aiding Shiite extremists in Iraq.

Among the delegation of Iraqi officials gathered at Baghdad international airport was Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, who told The Associated Press that Ahmadinejad plans to leave Monday morning. Upon Ahmadinejad’s arrival, the group piled into a military convoy headed for a meeting at Iraqi President Jalal Talabani’s residence.

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Iran's president making an announced visit to Iraq. So now I'm wondering... When the US president wants to visit Iraq, he has to come unannounced in the middle of the night through the backdoor like a unwanted stepchild.

Didn't the USA free these people? Isn't the USA nationbuilding Iraq? Americans are dying and spending trillions on the iraqis.. So why do these useless iraqis treat the American president like trash?

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Didn't the USA free these people? Isn't the USA nationbuilding Iraq? Americans are dying and spending trillions on the iraqis.. So why do these useless iraqis treat the American president like trash?
Because they didn't ask. Responses are mixed here... some people welcome and embrace American presence, others despise it. Some have had their lives turned around for the better... others have had their children blown to bits over faulty intelligence over supposed Al Queda locations. *Shrugs*...

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Because they didn't ask. Responses are mixed here... some people welcome and embrace American presence, others despise it. Some have had their lives turned around for the better... others have had their children blown to bits over faulty intelligence over supposed Al Queda locations. *Shrugs*...

it's not a fairy-tale.



Well if thats the case, then f'em. I'm all for helping people that want to be helped and that can help themselves when given a leg up. The free iraqis have proven themselves useless. The only way they'll learn to take care of themselves is to cut them lose.


This never ending nagging/nanny role for the USA is no longer productive.

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Didn't the USA free these people? Isn't the USA nationbuilding Iraq? Americans are dying and spending trillions on the iraqis.. So why do these useless iraqis treat the American president like trash?
did you happen to see whether he flipped off the American press corps on his way to the meeting? certainly our diplomatic contingent - those who work out of the massive new embassy - will be invited to participate in the iraq-iran meetings ... won't they?

almost as bad is the israeli regime causing numerous civilian casualties just before the arrival of our secretary of state

dubya has to be feeling like rodney dangerfield these days
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Well if thats the case, then f'em. I'm all for helping people that want to be helped and that can help themselves when given a leg up. The free iraqis have proven themselves useless. The only way they'll learn to take care of themselves is to cut them lose.This never ending nagging/nanny role for the USA is no longer productive.
Nobody did invite Americans in Iraq. Nobody did ask you to help. You came in that country as foreign invaders and plain murderers, covering dirty goals (oil-stealing) by pure names of Democracy and Freedom. Why should Iraqis be helpful after that, I wonder?
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I wonder?

Yeah I wonder too... don't you have your own Russian election to worry about? Grond, go start a thread about the Russian election.

Oh thats right! You only have one guy to choose from, and any Russian newsperson that says bad things about your sausage sucking vodka swilling leaders mysteriously dies.

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Because they didn't ask. Responses are mixed here...

Well, whichever way Bush's adventure goes, as far as I'm concerned the US military and coalition forces have already done their job and more.


Missions Accomplished by the US Armed Forces:

Iraq liberated from ruling Bath party.
Saddam & Sons dead.
WMD threat gone.
Iraqi Constitution passed into law.
Iraqi Govt established and run by thousands of elected Iraqi politicians.
Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis in the Iraqi military.
Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis in their police force.
Trillions of American tax dollars spent rebuilding Iraqi.





Just because our leaders want to keep spending American blood and treasure for some bleedingheart goals of nation builidng Iraqi into some sort of multi-sect moslem paradise is not yet done, does not mean the American troops haven't done their job.

It's high time the Free Iraqis learned to take care of themselves and their country. THAT is not the job of an American soldier. The soldiers of the United States can come home from a freed Iraq with their heads held high, chest out, proud of what has been accomplished.



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Yeah I wonder too... don't you have your own Russian election to worry about? Grond, go start a thread about the Russian election.

Oh thats right! You only have one guy to choose from, and any Russian newsperson that says bad things about your sausage sucking vodka swilling leaders mysteriously dies.
..has nothing to do with American Invasion in Iraq. Try again (something clever)
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Exclamation UPDATE on Ahmadinjewhad's Iraq visit.

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did you happen to see whether he flipped off the American press corps on his way to the meeting? certainly our diplomatic contingent - those who work out of the massive new embassy - will be invited to participate in the iraq-iran meetings ... won't they?
Uhh nope.



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Iran team leaves without US talks on Iraq
Thu Mar 6, 4:56 AM ET


BAGHDAD, March 6, 2008 (AFP) - An Iranian delegation left Baghdad for home on Thursday without holding talks with officials from archfoe the United States on the security situation in Iraq, an Iranian official said.

"The delegation has left Baghdad because the Americans refused to conduct any negotiations," the official close to Tehran's negotiators told AFP.

Delegation head Reza Amiri Moghaddam had been quoted by the Iranian media as saying a new round of talks would be held on Thursday in Baghdad, but both US and Iraqi officials denied any such dialogue had been scheduled.

"The government of Iraq was busy with the visit of the Iranian president and there was no time to fix the date for the talks. There were no talks fixed for today," Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh told AFP.

US embassy spokesman Philip Reeker also said there were "no trilateral talks today."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080306...talksdiplomacy
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Gee "I'm a uniter not a divider" Dubya did manage to unite the Iraqis and Iranians tho.
Quite an achivement considering those two spent a million lives and a decade killing each other just a few decades ago.
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