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Old 08-03-2004, 01:32 PM
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They have arrested more top Al Qaeda guys today....based on information they are getting off the computer of the one they arrested last week.

Pakistan Captures High Ranking Al-Qaida Terrorists Pakistan has captured two high-ranking al-Qaida terrorists, including one with a multi-million dollar US bounty on his head, in a sweep that has netted a number of other terror suspects, officials said today.

Interior Minister Faisal Saleh Hayyat said the arrests in eastern Punjab province constituted another major break, just days after intelligence agents swooped down on Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, a Tanzanian wanted for the 1998 bombings of US embassies in East Africa.

“In addition to Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, whose bounty was 25 million dollars (£13.7 million), we have captured another most wanted suspect with a bounty on him running into the millions of dollars,” Hayyat said in Islamabad.

He said both of the suspects were of African origin but refused to identify them or their nationalities.

Four Egyptians and a Libyan on the FBI’s list of 22 most wanted terrorists are believed to be in Pakistan or Afghanistan, but it is not clear if they were among those captured. Each of the men has a £2.7 million bounty on his head in connection with the embassy bombings.

Osama bin Laden’s number two, Ayman al-Zawahri, is also from Egypt. The two men are believed hiding along the Pakistan-Afghan border, far from Punjab province.

Hayyat’s announcement followed news that at least six al-Qaida suspects – including a Syrian man – have been arrested in separate raids in recent days.

Three of the suspected militants – two Pakistanis and a foreigner – were arrested on a road near the eastern city of Lahore, and five grenades and two AK-47 rifles were found in their 4X4 vehicle, a high-ranking intelligence official said.

Another detainee is a policeman, Raja Waqar, assigned to the office of Punjab province’s top politician. He is suspected of passing information on the whereabouts of top government officials to al-Qaida linked groups, Lahore police chief Tariq Salim Dogar said.

“The previous record of the policeman shows that he has been involved in jihadi activities and had links with al-Qaida. We have initiated a probe to find out how he managed to get posted to such a sensitive place,” Dogar said.

A fifth suspect, arrested at a bus station in a town near Lahore, identified himself as Juma Ibrahim, a Syrian, said district police chief Aslam Ghauri. He said Ibrahim was turned over to Pakistan’s spy agency.

Another man was arrested trying to board a plane in Lahore with questionable documents, said a government official who gave no further details.

It was not immediately clear if any of the six militants described by Pakistani officials included the two senior al-Qaida men that Hayyat said were wanted by the United States.

Several of the detainees were believed to be linked to other al-Qaida suspects in custody, including a computer expert identified as Mohammad Naeem Noor Khan who was arrested on July 13.

Khan provided information leading to the arrest of Ghailani in eastern Gujrat on July 25, said an intelligence official in Lahore.

Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed said that Ghailani’s computers at home contained e-mails with instructions for attacks in the United States and Britain.

Intelligence gained from Khan’s and other arrests was a major factor in US Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge’s decision to issue a warning about a possible al-Qaida attack on prominent financial institutions in New York, Washington and Newark in New Jersey. "
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Old 08-03-2004, 01:37 PM
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Great news, now lets see about getting Bush's friend Ossama Bin Ladden!!!?
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Bush's "friend??" What the heck does that mean?
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Default This is great news!

Seems like this computer has really given us a LOT of information!


BTW, why aren't any liberals getting excited about this? Doesn't this mean that we are making ourselves safer, which is good for us all?
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Default The Bin Ladens did business with the bushes..

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..and vice versa..

Not surprising grandpa bush gave money to Hitler....
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Seems like this computer has really given us a LOT of information!
Just an FYI - one of the guys that they caught last week was Muhammed Noon Khan - Al Qaeda's Computer and Intelligence expert - so they basically caught Al Qaeda's Achilles heal.
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Oh geez. Right off the conspiracy websites!
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Seems like this computer has really given us a LOT of information!
Just an FYI - one of the guys that they caught last week was Muhammed Noon Khan - Al Qaeda's Computer and Intelligence expert - so they basically caught Al Qaeda's Achilles heal.
And we're very happy about that. Aren't YOU?
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Not surprising grandpa bush gave money to Hitler....
Oh geez. Right off the conspiracy websites!
I don't think anyone contests that Bush Sr., Sr. was a Nazi sympathizer/contributor/business partner. That's not just an accusation. Look it up.
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Old 08-04-2004, 02:57 PM
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Default Yay! We got some!

Y'know what... yes, I will applaud the effort by the Bush administration in aprehending the men mentioned in the article above.

Now read this article from the New Republic...
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040719&s=aaj071904

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This public pressure would be appropriate, even laudable, had it not been accompanied by an unseemly private insistence that the Pakistanis deliver these high-value targets (HVTs) before Americans go to the polls in November. The Bush administration denies it has geared the war on terrorism to the electoral calendar. "Our attitude and actions have been the same since September 11 in terms of getting high-value targets off the street, and that doesn't change because of an election," says National Security Council spokesman Sean McCormack. But The New Republic has learned that Pakistani security officials have been told they must produce HVTs by the election. According to one source in Pakistan's powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), "The Pakistani government is really desperate and wants to flush out bin Laden and his associates after the latest pressures from the U.S. administration to deliver before the [upcoming] U.S. elections." Introducing target dates for Al Qaeda captures is a new twist in U.S.-Pakistani counterterrorism relations--according to a recently departed intelligence official, "no timetable[s]" were discussed in 2002 or 2003--but the November election is apparently bringing a new deadline pressure to the hunt. Another official, this one from the Pakistani Interior Ministry, which is responsible for internal security, explains, "The Musharraf government has a history of rescuing the Bush administration. They now want Musharraf to bail them out when they are facing hard times in the coming elections." (These sources insisted on remaining anonymous. Under Pakistan's Official Secrets Act, an official leaking information to the press can be imprisoned for up to ten years.)
Here's the beef I have.

These latest captures are the result of increased pressure being placed on Pakistan. Not from soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan, not from the Department of Homeland Security, not the Ashcroft Justice department, and not from anything the Pentagon has done.

If putting increased pressure on Pakistan is all it takes to produce terror suspects... shouldn't this have been happening years ago? Instead of paying 100's of millions in 'aid' to them, and giving them a free pass on nuclear proliferation?

Also... if you read the article I've posted here, you'll see that the Bush Administration is only now beginning to care about actual results in the 'war on terror'. So forgive us left-leaners when we get a little cynicle when we hear that the Whitehouse is trying to tie Pakistan into a schedule of terrorist captures to coincide with events in American Politics.

That kind of stuff just really makes my stomach turn.
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