Yeah, 'non-partisan'... :rollseyes:

So the final last hurrah is that us liberals (or anyone who opposes the war) will fear some secret information you have. You guys have been beaten. You've spread the lies and the propaganda and we knocked it all down.

You've also shown you are against free speech. That blows any attempt at "giving Iraqis the freedom " argument as an excuse for war. Look, we know you all got duped by the lies of the Bush Adminstration. Start mending the wrongs you have made.

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“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” - Stephen Roberts.

What lies have people opposing the war "beaten down"? Don't you mean "beaten to death"?

Well if that was the case you wouldn't have been able to post that my bolshevik friend.

So you knew the war was going well but still condemn it? Admirable even for a liar.

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And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.

LOL. Who said it was secreat? ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN TO IRAQ KNOWS THE TRUTH! HOW COULD LIBERALS WHO HAVE NEVER SERVED IN IRAQ CLAIM THAT WE ARE SPREADING PROPAGANDA AND LIES? ANTI WAR LIBERALS GET THE INFORMATION THEY SEE FROM THE POLITICALLY CHARGED MEDIA! THE MARINES GET THERE INFORMATION FROM WHAT THEY HAVE SEEN WITH THERE OWN EYES! AND YOU SAY WE ARE DUPED? IVE SEEN THE DECAPITATED CHILDREN OF THOES WHO SUPPORT THE IRAQI DEMOCRACY! IVE SEEN THE TORTURE CHAMBERS! IVE SEEN THE ENEMY BLOW UP BOMBS IN CROWDED MARKET PLACES AND SHOOT AT ME PERSONALLY FROM MOSQUES, SCHOOLS, AND HOSPITALS! YOU WOULD HAVE THESE PEOPLE TAKE OVER IRAQ SIMPLY SO YOU CAN BASH AMERICA AND MAKE A POLITICAL STATEMENT! YOU WANT THE ENEMY TO DEFEAT AMERICA AND GAIN TERRORIST SUPPORT FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD! YOU WANT AN OIL FUNDED ANTI AMERICAN ISLAMIC EXTREAMIST TERROR STATE THATS MAIN GOAL IS TO DESTROY THE WEST! WE KNOW BETTER! THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE ANY CREDEBILITY ONTHIS ISSUE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE IN IRAQ! NOT THE AVERAGE JOE WATCHING CNN/FOX/OR MSNBC! DONT BRING A KNIFE TO A GUN FIGHT! IN OTHER WORDS DONT ARGUE ABOUT WHAT YOU DONT KNOW AND IF YOUR GETTING YOUR INFORMATION FROM THE MEDIA OR LEFT WING WEB SITES THEN YOU SIMPLY DONT KNOW!

Stand down. He uses the muppet avatar for a reason.

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And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.

The thing I’m having trouble understanding is they say their taking their non partisan message coast to coast, yet they don’t provide apposing views. When there’s so many of us that appose the war, this comes off as being very political.

You are supposing that their views differ from yours.

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And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.

I don't think this tour is bad. We need to celebrate the efforts of our troops to do a mission they were given to do. The lack of leadership at the White House, to maintain a National Support for what we are doing in Iraq DOES NOT FALL ON THE TROOPS! These men are supporting their brothers in harms way, because that IS LEADERSHIP. What my good friend in the White House is doing is a (*)(*)(*)(*) pour job informing the American People why their sons and daughters had to die. I get angry when I read statements that condemn the troops in the same breath as they point out an ineffectual effort to help all of us understand.
It is no secret that I am a conservative. I voted for G.W. in both national elections. But as of today, I am wondering if that trust was misplaced in some areas. And if it were not for Fox News, this forum, and other conservative news outlets that I have to go out of my way to listen to, I might even be out their protesting THE WAR myself. Not necessarily because I am without patriotism, but because I deplore war as much as the next vet. The case for the war, even when G.W. tries to make it, is weak. That angers me.
I am proud of these Americans getting on buses and telling the public, themselves, what they have accomplished. I want to hear that message. I want to look into their eyes and hear about the good will, the lives "saved", the friends made, the restored hope.
But if we go down that road, and we justify being over there purely on those grounds, then we should have been in several countries in Africa, long before we put our boots on the sands of Iraq. I fail to understand, in good conscience, why the blood of an Iraqi is worth more than the blood of a Somali or the blood of an Ethiopian. And IF I am wondering about that, I can only imagine the anger that boils in the blood of those who oppose G.W. on other grounds.
I, for one, applaude Toby for posting this. If I have a chance, I will go to hear what they have to say, and judge for myself, the worthiness of their message.
The story of this presidency is failed leadership on foreign policy, economic policy, and several key domestic policies. Do I like his judges? Sure. Do I think he could have pushed stronger on populating the federal benches that are still empty? Sure. Do I like his policy on eliminating the child porn industry in the US? Absolutely. Stem cells? Yes. I would give a lot up, to see these policy strengths come into play. But I am still unconvinced that there is good leadership on the war, and maybe this tour will help to restore hope, that some good has come from the loss of life we have suffered.

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Holy crap you got chewed up and spit out in this thread and still you claim your crap don't stink.

Well it did and does.

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