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Right, so does that means the Iraqis won't be going on tour begging for Americans to continue nationbuilding their country for them?
I think a letter is good enough! Dont you?

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To the Courageous Men and Women of the 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment, who have changed the city of Tall’ Afar from a ghost town, in which terrorists spread death and destruction, to a secure city flourishing with life.

To the lion-hearts who liberated our city from the grasp of terrorists who were beheading men, women and children in the streets for many months.

To those who spread smiles on the faces of our children, and gave us restored hope, through their personal sacrifice and brave fighting, and gave new life to the city after hopelessness darkened our days, and stole our confidence in our ability to reestablish our city.

Our city was the main base of operations for Abu Mousab Al Zarqawi. The city was completely held hostage in the hands of his henchmen. Our schools, governmental services, businesses and offices were closed. Our streets were silent, and no one dared to walk them. Our people were barricaded in their homes out of fear; death awaited them around every corner. Terrorists occupied and controlled the only hospital in the city. Their savagery reached such a level that they stuffed the corpses of children with explosives and tossed them into the streets in order to kill grieving parents attempting to retrieve the bodies of their young. This was the situation of our city until God prepared and delivered unto them the courageous soldiers of the 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment, who liberated this city, ridding it of Zarqawi’s followers after harsh fighting, killing many terrorists, and forcing the remaining butchers to flee the city like rats to the surrounding areas, where the bravery of other 3d ACR soldiers in Sinjar, Rabiah, Zumar and Avgani finally destroyed them.

I have met many soldiers of the 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment; they are not only courageous men and women, but avenging angels sent by The God Himself to fight the evil of terrorism.

The leaders of this Regiment; COL McMaster, COL Armstrong, LTC Hickey, LTC Gibson, and LTC Reilly embody courage, strength, vision and wisdom. Officers and soldiers alike bristle with the confidence and character of knights in a bygone era. The mission they have accomplished, by means of a unique military operation, stands among the finest military feats to date in Operation Iraqi Freedom, and truly deserves to be studied in military science. This military operation was clean, with little collateral damage, despite the ferocity of the enemy. With the skill and precision of surgeons they dealt with the terrorist cancers in the city without causing unnecessary damage.

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Finally, no matter how much I write or speak about this brave Regiment, I haven’t the words to describe the courage of its officers and soldiers. I pray to God to grant happiness and health to these legendary heroes and their brave families.

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Right, so does that mean the Iraqis won't be going on tour begging for Americans to continue nationbuilding their country for them?
I don't get it Ted. You are against the troops doing this tour or what? Why not send some of our heros out to tell their stories and drum up a little support for the troops if nothing else?
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I don't get it Ted. You are against the troops doing this tour or what? Why not send some of our heros out to tell their stories and drum up a little support for the troops if nothing else?
I guess there not credeble? Who knows what going through his head.
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No, a letter is not good enough.

Now I will post a list of all the instances of when Iraqis killed Americans soldiers.. on second thought, nevermind. Useless barbaric iraqi moslems aren't worth my time. I'll just post one incident out of thousands:



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By late 2006, Freeman's work in Karbala seemed to be going well. The U.S. planned to leave the center entirely in the hands of the Iraqis by the spring of 2007. But Freeman was uneasy about the job . He was an armor officer, more used to dealing with tanks and cannons than Iraqi politicians. Yet in Karbala he was a civil-affairs official, doing work he felt was more for a diplomat than a soldier.

Shortly before Christmas 2006, Freeman took a short leave to visit his family in California, making his way to Baghdad for a helicopter flight on the first leg of the journey. At Landing Zone Washington, the main helipad inside the Green Zone, Freeman spotted Senators John Kerry and Christopher Dodd, who were on a visit to Iraq. He introduced himself and began voicing some of his concerns. Freeman kept in touch with Dodd after they parted in Baghdad, reiterating his thoughts in an e-mail. "Senator, it's nuts over here," Freeman wrote. "Soldiers are being asked to do work we're not trained to do. I'm doing work that the State Department people are far more trained to do in fostering diplomacy. But they're not allowed to come off the bases because it's too dangerous here. It doesn't make any sense."

Freeman felt certain that the Iraqis he and his soldiers were supposed to be helping did not want them there. He and other troops suspected some of the police were members of the Mahdi Army, the militia of radical anti-American Shi'ite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. That's not unusual, given that the largely Shi'ite personnel of Iraq's Ministry of Interior have long been seen as a de facto wing of the Mahdi Army. National police are suspected of taking part in the militia's sectarian killings in Baghdad. And in southern Iraq, where al-Sadr is powerful, infiltration of U.S.-trained Iraqi units is common.

But even the wariest Americans have trouble believing that Iraqis who look them in the face each day could muster the audacity to try to kill them.
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Captain Brian Freeman, 31, of California, newly married with a one year old child, WestPoint graduate 1999, USArmy Reserves, would have probably liked to join this tour, but unfortunetly he was handcuffed and shot in the back of the head after he was kidnapped from an Iraqi PoliceStation occupied by Iraqi police, and surrounded Iraqi soldiers and Iraqi commandos.



So anyway Toby, you'll have to excuse me for not giving a damm about your useless barbaric iraqis.

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I don't get it Ted. You are against the troops doing this tour or what? Why not send some of our heros out to tell their stories and drum up a little support for the troops if nothing else?
not at all.

I just expect the free iraqis to do more for themselves, and frankly the bleedingheart neocon liberals running our govt should have been putting more pressure on the iraqi govt a long time ago.
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So anyway Toby, you'll have to excuse me for not giving a damm about your useless barbaric iraqis.
Yes, that was tragic. But it is the exception not the rule. You can not judge the millions on the actions of a small percentage.
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No, a letter is not good enough.

Now I will post a list of all the instances of when Iraqis killed Americans soldiers.. on second thought, nevermind. Useless barbaric iraqi moslems aren't worth my time. I'll just post one incident out of thousands:

But even the wariest Americans have trouble believing that Iraqis who look them in the face each day could muster the audacity to try to kill them.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1647454,00.html
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Captain Brian Freeman, 31, of California, newly married with a one year old child, WestPoint graduate 1999, USArmy Reserves, would have probably liked to join this tour, but unfortunetly he was handcuffed and shot in the back of the head after he was kidnapped from an Iraqi PoliceStation occupied by Iraqi police, and surrounded Iraqi soldiers and Iraqi commandos.



So anyway Toby, you'll have to excuse me for not giving a damm about your useless barbaric iraqis.

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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...7454-4,00.html When Iraqi authorities discovered the abandoned vehicles on the night of Jan. 20, Freeman was the soldier clinging to life.
ATTACKED BY OUTSIDE INSURGENTS NOT THE POLICE OFFICERS AT THE POLICE STATION! 2 OF THE SOLDIERS CAME FROM AN OUTSIDE HUMVEE!
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/w...eakattack.html The attackers threw a grenade and opened fire with automatic rifles as they grabbed two soldiers inside the compound. Then the guerrilla assault team jumped on top of an armored U.S. Humvee and captured two more soldiers, the U.S. military officials said.
HE DIED OF SMALL ARMS FIRE FROM THE ATTACK!
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THE INSURGENTS WERE DUSGUISED AS US TROOPS!
[quote] http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/2007/01/brian_scott_freeman_2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://la.indymedia.org/news/2007/01/192087_comment.php&h=177&w=165&sz=4&hl=en&start=13 &sig2=syhSVmfualyhE2f5IIjtTQ&um=1&tbnid=0xm9qHIDrQ GwsM:&tbnh=101&tbnw=94&ei=LRPrR5SzDZTyeYXJqYEB&pre v=/images%3Fq%3DCapt.%2BBrian%2BS.%2BFreeman%26um%3D1 %26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1G1GGLQ_ENUS264%26sa%3DN Freeman was killed Saturday in Karbala, Iraq when his Civil Affairs unit was ambushed by Iraqi insurgents disguised as U.S. troops.[/QUOTE]

THE ATTACK CAME FROM OUTSIDE THE COMPOUND NOT INSIDE! SO MUCH FOR LOOKING THEM IN THE FACE EACH DAY HUH?
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Killed while repelling an attack on the Provincial Joint Coordination Center in Karbala, Iraq, on January 20, 2007

IT LOOKS LIKE THE INSURGENTS GOT THERE HANDS ON SOME US SUPPLYS AND MADE A WELL PLANNED COORDINATED ASSAULT ON THE COMPOUND! IT NEVER WAS AN ISSUE OF TRUST!
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How did the attackers breach the base's security? A report from the military's investigation of the incident, a copy of which was obtained by TIME, says a convoy of eight sport-utility vehicles arrived at the outer gates of the complex shortly before the shooting started. The vehicles included a tan Suburban, a white Land Cruiser and a black Yukon. Inside the vehicles were at least eight men who wore American-style helmets and safety glasses, as well as some men wearing hoods in the way Iraqi interpreters working with U.S. forces sometimes do. According to the report, the Iraqi guards at the outer checkpoints put up no fight when the visitors ordered them, in English, to lay down their weapons and step aside.
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ITS NO DOUBT THAT IRAQI OFFICIALS HAVE LEAD TO THE DEATHS TO OUR TROOPS. WHEN I WAS IN IRAQ WE LOST TWO OF OUR SNIPERS TO IRAQI POLICE SHOOTING THEM IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD IN AN OBSERVATION POST. BUT YOU CHOSE A STORY THAT HAS ABSOLUTLY NOTHING TO DO WITH IRAQI OFFICIALS AND TRIED TO PASS IT OFF AS SUCH! AND YOUR LAST STATEMENT REALLY MADE YOU LOOK MISINFORMED! NEXT TIME HOW ABOUT ACTUALLY READING THE WHOLE STORY BEFORE MAKING ONE UP OF YOUR OWN FOR AN ANTI WAR PARTISAN OBJECTIVE?

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not at all.

I just expect the free iraqis to do more for themselves, and frankly the bleedingheart neocon liberals running our govt should have been putting more pressure on the iraqi govt a long time ago.
Ted, why all the hostility? Your party the anti-American Democratic party has done everything from day 1 (after they all voted to go to war) to use this war against the President for political gain. They have openly supported the enemy (Harry Reid calling this war lost), bashed our troops (John Murtha calling them murderers) and done everything they could to cause failure (holding up funding our troops need). So if you and your treasonous party would let our military do what they do best (Kick A$$) they could finish this thing on their own and come home.

I don't believe that 1 guy talking to the great fabricator (John Kerry) means our military doesn't support the effort. And if John Kerry had anything to do with relaying the story, I put it in the same context as (I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky) meaning I think it is a flat out lie.
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ITS NO DOUBT THAT IRAQI OFFICIALS HAVE LEAD TO THE DEATHS TO OUR TROOPS. WHEN I WAS IN IRAQ WE LOST TWO OF OUR SNIPERS TO IRAQI POLICE SHOOTING THEM IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD IN AN OBSERVATION POST.
Really? Iraqis are killing Americans soldiers?

Imagine that... the same people you bleedingheart liberal neocons are trying to help are killing our soldiers.
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Really? Iraqis are killing Americans soldiers?

Imagine that... the same people you bleedingheart liberal neocons are trying to help are killing our soldiers.
Its ok to post the link to your story tread. I think it is copyrighted by the site Ted.
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