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You cannot answer the question, why can't a worker get the full product of their labor?
The laborer should get all of it? And his employer, who has bought the materials and tools for his labor, and provided the building for his labor, and has provided the matching taxes and insurances, and has developed the marketing and sales plan for his labor should see none?
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The laborer should get all of it? And his employer, who has bought the materials and tools for his labor, and provided the building for his labor, and has provided the matching taxes and insurances, and has developed the marketing and sales plan for his labor should see none?
No, everyone should be workers.
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Great, welcome [back] to the stone age.
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No, everyone should be workers.
That makes about zero sense. What you are talking about is taking away all incentive to better yourself. You have to have CEOs just like you have to have Generals in the military. Without them things tend to fall apart. Just like without the workers, there is no need for a CEO. If you do not like where you are or what you are doing, then it is up to you to change that.

CEOs get paid big because they make big decisions, and hold a lot of responsibility. Take away the rewards for doing that job then there will not be many that want it. What would the point be?
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So, you think that the wage workers should get paid multi millions for unskilled labor?
DID I SAY THAT?
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Employment is a contract that can be ended at any time. You agree to do x for compensation y. Other people's compensation has nothing to do with it. It's just plain none of your business what other people make. I run a small company. If one of my employees resents my compensation or thinks he can do better elsewhere, he can leave.
DEAR 12TH, SMALL BIZ DON'T APPLY TO THIS FUSS.
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DID I SAY THAT?
No, but you implied that either the higher should not get paid more than the workers, or the workers should get paid much more. Your OP was about as clear as mud, so it was open to interpretation. Either way it does not make sense.
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There's no difference, jc. It's still none of your business what anyone else in a company makes. If you think your work has a greater value than your current wage, ask for a raise and leave if you don't get it.
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DEAR 12TH, SMALL BIZ DON'T APPLY TO THIS FUSS.
But it does. Businesses all act in a similar fashion, regardless of size. The man (of woman) at the top makes the big money. And they should, they make the big decisions. A competent CEO can hurl a companies profits off the charts, but at the same time an incompetent CEO can cause massive lay-offs and bankruptcy.
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No, but you implied that either the higher should not get paid more than the workers, or the workers should get paid much more. Your OP was about as clear as mud, so it was open to interpretation. Either way it does not make sense.
I CAN UDERSTAND THE RATIO 1:100 OR EVEN 1:250. BUT 1: 1000 IS RIDICULOUS.
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