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I’m not sure how many would agree but wouldn’t a salary cap on CEO’s level the playing field a little bit? I work for a corporation right now and I have friends who are working for Apple and let me tell you, CEO’s are only as good as those working under them. I'm talking about specialized talented people that are doing jobs that not just anyone can do. The lack of credit and reward thrown around amazes me.
Our current crop of Greedy bustards will ship your job overseas in a heartbeat, like Dell did among too many others. Seems those defending the CEOs are born to suck-up or suck in any way?
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1. Company Go Green [good for the company public image]

Please Go google use: corporation to go green

2. Company Profits down, layoff workers [in thousands to make an impact]

This is common sense, many examples on the web
Please Go google use: layoff


3. Stock price down, lay off more workers
The most current example: CIT announced it's layoff of 9000 workers last Friday and CIT stock went up for one day ONLY, then look at this week their stock performance. Also refer to DELL computer recent lay-off.

4. Job outsourcing.

Google: EDS outsourcing giant[sets the trend first]

PS. I have to add another one

5. Pump up company performance to stock share holders.
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Again....this is nothing but jealousy and greed. If you think you're being treated unfairly, then quit trying to knock down the rich guy, and focus on becoming rich yourself.
We are in a democratic country, when a worker complains about his/her CEO is not worth it, he has every right to do so. There are things in the world you just can not do it alone. To focus on becoming rich yourself is your Motto and suit you the best hopefully.

PS. If a system is unfair, you had better to fight this system first then concentrate on your own.

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CEO’s are only as good as those working under them. I'm talking about specialized talented people that are doing jobs that not just anyone can do. The lack of credit and reward thrown around amazes me.
CEO can not do it alone.
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We are in a democratic country, when a worker complains about his/her CEO is not worth it, he has every right to do so.
I completely agree. You can whine and complain as much as you want. You can cry like a 4-year old, whose brother got a bigger piece of cake than he did. You can stomp your feet and hold your breath and cry "not fair!" until you get all the meaningless attention you desperately crave.

However, to actively punish someone, or hold them back in any way, simply because of jealousy, that's wrong.

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You still haven't convinced me how the system is unfair. All I see is jealousy of the "haves" from the "have nots."
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I completely agree. You can whine and complain as much as you want. You can cry like a 4-year old, whose brother got a bigger piece of cake than he did. You can stomp your feet and hold your breath and cry "not fair!" until you get all the meaningless attention you desperately crave.

However, to actively punish someone, or hold them back in any way, simply because of jealousy, that's wrong.


You still haven't convinced me how the system is unfair. All I see is jealousy of the "haves" from the "have nots."
Hopefully someday you can realize.
By the way, im my work jealousy is a motivation for my own self improvement. Why would I jealous of someone so far from reach, and what's gonna do me good? May I ask.
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Since Citi Group announced that they will cut 9000 jobs, their stock went up for ONE day then fall again, today's stock market, CIT Group Inc. is approaching -15% to $10.90 a share. Those poor 9000 workers only worth one day up in the stock market.

Sorry to bring this thread up again, just couldn't help.
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I completely agree. You can whine and complain as much as you want. You can cry like a 4-year old, whose brother got a bigger piece of cake than he did. You can stomp your feet and hold your breath and cry "not fair!" until you get all the meaningless attention you desperately crave.

However, to actively punish someone, or hold them back in any way, simply because of jealousy, that's wrong.


You still haven't convinced me how the system is unfair. All I see is jealousy of the "haves" from the "have nots."
Hopefully someday you can realize.
By the way, im my work jealousy is a motivation for my own self improvement. Why would I jealous of someone so far from reach, and what's gonna do me good? May I ask.[/quote]
Yes, you may ask.

My answer is...yes. I DO realize. That's the whole point of this debate. I understand the concept of bettering one's self as much as they can. I understand the concept of "market value" in people. I understand the concept of "irreplaceable" employees vs. "dime-a-dozen" employees.

I also understand that there are a lot of folks who fail to understand the concept of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." If a bunch of uneducated, low-worth trolls wish to hinder the limits of what an educated, high-worth person succeeds, then how is that guaranteeing the educated person any "liberty?" You're stealing his liberty away, for your own jealous reasons. What did the educated person do to the uneducated one? Stay in school longer? Work harder? Prove his worth?

And this is why your version of socialism doesn't belong in this country. It can not exist under a capitalist society, because socialism strives to steal someone's liberty away, and artificially give it to someone else, who did not deserve it.
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Yes, you may ask.

My answer is...yes. I DO realize. That's the whole point of this debate. I understand the concept of bettering one's self as much as they can. I understand the concept of "market value" in people. I understand the concept of "irreplaceable" employees vs. "dime-a-dozen" employees.

I also understand that there are a lot of folks who fail to understand the concept of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." If a bunch of uneducated, low-worth trolls wish to hinder the limits of what an educated, high-worth person succeeds, then how is that guaranteeing the educated person any "liberty?" You're stealing his liberty away, for your own jealous reasons. What did the educated person do to the uneducated one? Stay in school longer? Work harder? Prove his worth?

And this is why your version of socialism doesn't belong in this country. It can not exist under a capitalist society, because socialism strives to steal someone's liberty away, and artificially give it to someone else, who did not deserve it.
Unfortunately, we have already adapted few socialism into our system: the social security plan, welfare program, housing program for the poor.....also the universal health care is coming...

Personally, I think that bring out this fact to the public can also help changing the corporation's over-use of CEOs, and our government many not have to get involved with this if we, people, can make those corporation start to change themselves.

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