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Old 03-30-2008, 12:50 PM
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Default What are we going to do with those CEOs?

Personally I think that nobody is one million smarter than you and deserve to make more than 1million times than you make. The company I am working for our CEO's bonus last year is 14 million dollars. Every time when a company is cutting jobs always from them bottom to bottom. The CEO's job am\and bonus is untouchable. It is getting sickening to hear the news, which CEO is making?? Million dollars.

CEOs are not a different BREED, why our society and capitalism is keep on encouraging this trend? Can we ever fix this kind of salary gap between a CEO and an average worker?

I had heard that in Japan there's a fixed gap of how much a CEO can make, is that true? How can we IMPORT that idea to our country? And I guess all the stockholders can work on these issues together, can we?
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If each worker was able to have the full product of their labor then such inequality would not exist, wage-labor is parasitic because the bourgeois takes the vast majority of the labor value of the worker and only gives him a small amount back in the form of a wage (basically a tiny incentive to keep him fed and fit to keep working).

To each the full product of their labor!
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Here's an idea!

Become as valuable to your company as the CEO's and cash in right along with them!
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Personally I think that nobody is one million smarter than you and deserve to make more than 1million times than you make. The company I am working for our CEO's bonus last year is 14 million dollars. Every time when a company is cutting jobs always from them bottom to bottom. The CEO's job amand bonus is untouchable. It is getting sickening to hear the news, which CEO is making?? Million dollars.
So, you think that the wage workers should get paid multi millions for unskilled labor?
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Personally I think that nobody is one million smarter than you and deserve to make more than 1million times than you make. The company I am working for our CEO's bonus last year is 14 million dollars. Every time when a company is cutting jobs always from them bottom to bottom. The CEO's job amand bonus is untouchable. It is getting sickening to hear the news, which CEO is making?? Million dollars.

CEOs are not a different BREED, why our society and capitalism is keep on encouraging this trend? Can we ever fix this kind of salary gap between a CEO and an average worker?

I had heard that in Japan there's a fixed gap of how much a CEO can make, is that true? How can we IMPORT that idea to our country? And I guess all the stockholders can work on these issues together, can we?
how much is enough and who gets to decide?
the shareholders must approve or they would displace the overcompensated management
there are American companies that establish compensation limits. one that i admired was instituted by Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream. no one could realize compensation which was more than 7 times the lowest paid employee. so, to earm more, management had to also make sure the lower paid employees also earned more. (not sure that system remains in place after ben & jerry sold their company)
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If each worker was able to have the full product of their labor then such inequality would not exist, wage-labor is parasitic because the bourgeois takes the vast majority of the labor value of the worker and only gives him a small amount back in the form of a wage (basically a tiny incentive to keep him fed and fit to keep working).

To each the full product of their labor!
Nobody is stopping you from starting your own company, taking risks, developing a product, marketing it, hiring your own labor force and making payroll every week all while making a profit.

Good luck!
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Nobody is stopping you from starting your own company, taking risks, developing a product, marketing it, hiring your own labor force and making payroll every week all while making a profit.

Good luck!
You cannot answer the question, why can't a worker get the full product of their labor?
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Employment is a contract that can be ended at any time. You agree to do x for compensation y. Other people's compensation has nothing to do with it. It's just plain none of your business what other people make. I run a small company. If one of my employees resents my compensation or thinks he can do better elsewhere, he can leave.
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You cannot answer the question, why can't a worker get the full product of their labor?
I answered the question, now get out there and start your own company.

Get back to us in a couple years and let us know if you still hold the same communist views that you have now.
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Employment is a contract that can be ended at any time. You agree to do x for compensation y. Other people's compensation has nothing to do with it. It's just plain none of your business what other people make. I run a small company. If one of my employees resents my compensation or thinks he can do better elsewhere, he can leave.

And if you get tired of his constant whining, fire him!
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