a car is a not a gun.

it's a stupid analogy, you should know better.

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there's what mccain says...then there's what JP5 says mccain says

Those are already illegal and have absolutely ZERO to do with the assault weapons ban.

The assault weapons ban you favor doesn't ban automatic assault weapons. It bans SINGLE SHOT rifles that LOOK LIKE automatic assault weapons.

Catz

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so let's do that! did i say i wasn't in favor of that? sounds like a great idea. let's all write bush a letter asking him to do so.

(your point has been not been made with facts but with second hand accounts from people you seemingly know)

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there's what mccain says...then there's what JP5 says mccain says

the answer is to execute children.

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there's what mccain says...then there's what JP5 says mccain says

There is no need for any type of guns to be available to the public. I'll give the stupid hunters their shotguns and 22-rifles only because they never shut the F up about them (though I'm against all guns for the general public). You make it sound like just because I"m against lifting this ban on assault weapons I don't see the danger of semi-automatic handguns. That is a separate issue. If you want my opinion, then there it is...ban them all! But for some wierd reason you don't think there is a danger in having assault weapons legal for the general public?

For clarification, the "assault weapons" ban only prohibits weapons that look scary to the ignorant.

I can still buy an AK-47 in about fifteen minutes. I just can't buy one with a pistol grip, bayonet mount and muzzle break. They both shoot at the same rate, have the same capacity, etc.

This is apparently not understood by a lot of people, who believe an "assault weapon" is some kind of automatic weapon.

makes about as much sense as banning guns that are rarely used in the commission of crimes in the guise of reducing gun crimes.


So, at least you're being logically consistent with yourself.

Catz

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Not according to the Constitution and the founders of our nation.

What logical reason is there to keep law-abiding citizens from owning arms past a .22 or shotgun?

Then I suggest a relativily easy permit system. The idea is that criminals will be denied permits and then hit them hard for illegal possession when cought. People that already have a permit for a weapon type/class should not even have to deal with a waiting time for their weapon. To be allowed a permit the applicant should need to be able to show that:

1. You are a responsible person that will not missuse your weapon.
(Prove to use that you are NOT a criminal or a nuthead).
2. You Know how to safley operate your weapon.
(So you don't accidentily shoot someone while while cleaning your weapon for instance).
3. Are a good enough shot to not hit an innocent bystander.
(Get yourself to a firing range and get some training and show us the result).

For continued permits the permit possessor should need to prove all three requirements when asked to do so and with some regularity. This seems to be about every five years in my country. Permits are recalled if the permit owner no longer meets the reqirements. Kiss your permit goodby if you become blind for instance (3.)

The law are more complicated then this where I live but I just made up a condensed version that may work for you Americans. We also has to prove that we actually need the weapon we are applying for a licence for.

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