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Old 05-09-2008, 06:44 PM
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Okay, let's break down the 2007 numbers.

U.S. GDP is about $13 trillion. Thus, $1.1 billion represents roughly 3 seconds of our annual output.

Saudi Arabia's GDP is about $366 billion. Their $6.5 million donation represents roughly 9.4 minutes of their annual output.

Who is giving more in the "give until it hurts" sense?

To be clear, I'm not slamming the U.S. here. I think the comparison is ridiculous.

Rich countries give more, and that should not be poo-pooed. They also tend to give lower percentages of their wealth, because they are so wealthy that smaller percentages are still staggeringly large sums. They should not necessarily be criticized for that; it's just a statistical fact.

But one cannot then turn around and criticize poorer countries for giving less, especially using invalid comparisons like per capita giving. In some countries, people live on $1 a day. Are you really going to try to compare their charitable donations to Americans with a per capita income of $40,000? They could give 100% of their money away and in an absolute sense they'd still look like penny-pinchers compared to even the least generous American. All you're really doing is highlighting just how mind-numbingly large the wealth gap is in the world.
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Okay, let's break down the 2007 numbers.

U.S. GDP is about $13 trillion. Thus, $1.1 billion represents roughly 3 seconds of our annual output.

Saudi Arabia's GDP is about $366 billion. Their $6.5 million donation represents roughly 9.4 minutes of their annual output.
Think about per-capita.
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They should give more to the World Food Program, but at the same time, they are not required to. It's their choice as to whether they give or not, no matter how much we don't like that fact.
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They should give more to the World Food Program, but at the same time, they are not required to. It's their choice as to whether they give or not, no matter how much we don't like that fact.
It should be my choice whether I give money to the government too, but liberals don't tend to think like that.
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Think about per-capita.
Population of U.S. is 300 million. Per capita income is thus about $43,300. Our $1.1 billion donation to the food program works out to $3.67 per capita.
3.67/43300 = 0.0085% of per capita income.

Population of Saudi is 27 million. Per capita income is thus about $13,555. Their $6.5 million donation to the food program works out to 24 cents per capita.
.24/13555 = 0.0018% of per capita income.

U.S. comes off looking better there. Of course, it's still a drop in the bucket in either case.
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They should give more to the World Food Program, but at the same time, they are not required to. It's their choice as to whether they give or not, no matter how much we don't like that fact.
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Population of U.S. is 300 million. Per capita income is thus about $43,300. Our $1.1 billion donation to the food program works out to $3.67 per capita.
3.67/43300 = 0.0085% of per capita income.

Population of Saudi is 27 million. Per capita income is thus about $13,555. Their $6.5 million donation to the food program works out to 24 cents per capita.
.24/13555 = 0.0018% of per capita income.

U.S. comes off looking better there. Of course, it's still a drop in the bucket in either case.
What country has the best per capita number?
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Hmmm, what an odd statistic....

Did you really think the Middle East with all it's deserts would produce more food than America? Come on...
With the trillions in oil revenue, one would think they could BUY some to donate....wouldn't one?
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If you look at all the forms of foreign aid, charity, etc, I am seriously doubtful this is true. The total amount that America gives to help the world is simply massive. And, of course the military power to bring peace and/or recovery resources to the area is another area that costs enormous amounts and is borne almost entirely by the USA, along with being the primary funding behind the UN, by far, etc, etc.
alright, show us some numbers.
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I have always said that we DO have blood on our hands for some of our foreign policy decisions we have made in our history....

But we are also a VERY giving nation and since WW2 no nation has come close to giving to 3rd world countries as we have.

Not just our government either, but also just the money raised seperately from citizens giving to charity and what not.

We are a big hearted people and I think that sometimes the "blame America first" crowd doesn't look at that part of it.
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