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I didn't respond to a comment about living in New Orleans, nor did I mention that city. I responded to a comment about the ruining of the United States Of America.
You were commenting about how his comments were racist. But, if you ever lived here like I do, you would find that race is a way of life down here. It isn't just the whites doing it either. Blacks don't want whites in their communities, etc.

So, that is just the way life is.


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Every candidate for the American Presidency needs the votes of those whom you desparage, not just Barak Obama. Correct?
Barack Obama is idolized by the negroes of this country. It makes perfect sense and a perfect time for him to come and applaud the actions of a fellow African American mayor.

I mean isn't that the change he wants?

Right....none of us know what the change means.
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If all the white families are moving out because a black family moved in, don't you think that the extreme decrease in people wanting to live there (if you assume that all white people don't want to live there) would drop the property value? If it is true that these white people will move out (I wouldn't mind, I'm not a racist), then yes, the property value will go down, but no, it is not the black peoples fault but your analogy makes no sense whatsoever.
As I have seen, and certainly you have too, these things happen in trickles at first, so there usually is no "extreme decrease in people wanting to live there."

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However, black people do commit more than their fair share of crime in this country (not being racist here, its a fact) so if crime went up I would leave, but that has no effect is a nice, well-to-do black family moves in.
I agree with you. This is why my analogy does make sense! You, not being a racist, would not be responding to a perceived threat (the butterfly), but a real one (the crime rate).
When the crime rate goes up, you, and I, and everyone wants to move away from it.
God bless those among us who cannot.
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God bless those among us who cannot.
Unfortunately, many of those are poor blacks, which further increases their proportion of the crime rate. However, it is not because of their race, it's just an unfortunate fact of economic life and they should try harder to better their economic situation. Of course, then you have liberals talking about "affirmative action" that would give blacks money until they didn't have more than their fair share of the crime rate but that's just pointless.

Anyway, your analogy makes a little more sense but it is still somewhat misleading.
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You were commenting about how his comments were racist. But, if you ever lived here like I do, you would find that race is a way of life down here. It isn't just the whites doing it either. Blacks don't want whites in their communities, etc.

So, that is just the way life is.
I asked him if he was a racist.
"Just the way life is"...?
It is a sad fact that on this hallowed soil, and under this star spangled banner of freedom, blacks were more than welcomed into white neighborhoods until after January 1st, 1863.

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Barack Obama is idolized by the negroes of this country. It makes perfect sense and a perfect time for him to come and applaud the actions of a fellow African American mayor.
Perhaps if you could see Barak Obama as a man, rather than a race, you might see the unfairness of this comment. But if Mayor Nagin is on the right track, and improving his city, then all canditates should be praising his efforts, not just one.
But this is my sense of fairness.
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You can say that Blacks are all lazy, Latinos smell of garlic, Jews steel money from the poor, Italians leave grease marks on your furniture, French are always wrong about evrything ( oops sorry that one is true), Chinese are slant eyed buggerheads, and Germans eat babies cooked on the grill during Oktoberfest but do call any member or refer to anything that a member posts as racist even if it is.

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That could be the single stupidest thing I've ever read, EVER--in the entire history of stupid things. Racism shouldn't be tolerated period. If it is acceptable on this board, then it would be true that the forum is being run by advocates of racism and possibly racists themselves.

That would be the utmost in deceitfulness, masking a political racist agenda and presenting it as a legitimate forum to discuss politics. Promotion of such polarization can only lead to civil disorder and eventually open war. There is extreme danger to society in fostering these ideas and I urge caution and "farsightedness" to predict where such racist promotions will lead our society into the future. The civil war wasn't really that long ago and was fought over these same principles. If you think about it, the civil war didn't fully end until Brown v. Board of Education in 1954 and it's subsequent civil rights acts. We've seen the destruction caused when one group of people imposes itself upon another. I urge and warn you not to promote racismby allowing it for the consequences are devastating to all of us.

Finally, if you guys are indeed promoting racist ideals, then at least be genuine and open about it and don't hide it behind some "political forum" and try to deceive people. Seriously, are you trying to start another civil war here? You can't fool all the people all of the time.

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Unfortunately, many of those are poor blacks... Of course, then you have liberals talking about "affirmative action" that would give blacks money until they didn't have more than their fair share of the crime rate but that's just pointless.
The original intent of Affirmative Action is that it was imposed to assure that the qualified applicant was given fair consideration, regardless of race, creed, color, or gender. It did not develope in a vaccum. It was the direct response to American Aparteid. It was to be done on the "Honor System". But dishonorable and creative opponants, particularly in the southern states but also elsewhere, were basically uncooperative, so do-gooders and well-meaning bureaucrats devised ways to make it manditory. Whenever this happens, someone is going to feel (and actually be) slighted, resulting in the mess it became.

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Anyway, your analogy makes a little more sense but it is still somewhat misleading.
Oh, well. Ok. That's one more thing I have to try harder at!
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I'm not a racist but I could say:

That could be the single stupidest thing I've ever read, EVER--in the entire history of stupid things. Liberalism shouldn't be tolerated period. If it is acceptable on this board, then it would be true that the forum is being run by advocates of liberalism and possibly liberals themselves.

That would be the utmost in deceitfulness, masking a political liberal agenda and presenting it as a legitimate forum to discuss politics. Promotion of such polarization can only lead to civil disorder and eventually open war. There is extreme danger to society in fostering these ideas and I urge caution and "farsightedness" to predict where such liberal promotions will lead our society into the future. The civil war wasn't really that long ago and was fought over these same principles. If you think about it, the civil war didn't fully end until Brown v. Board of Education in 1954 and it's subsequent civil rights acts. We've seen the destruction caused when one group of people imposes itself upon another. I urge and warn you not to promote liberalism by allowing it for the consequences are devastating to all of us.

Finally, if you guys are indeed promoting liberal ideals, then at least be genuine and open about it and don't hide it behind some "political forum" and try to deceive people. Seriously, are you trying to start another civil war here? You can't fool all the people all of the time.




Come on, at least support freedom of speech for your own sake.
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That could be the single stupidest thing I've ever read, EVER--in the entire history of stupid things. Racism shouldn't be tolerated period. If it is acceptable on this board, then it would be true that the forum is being run by advocates of racism and possibly racists themselves.

That would be the utmost in deceitfulness, masking a political racist agenda and presenting it as a legitimate forum to discuss politics. Promotion of such polarization can only lead to civil disorder and eventually open war. There is extreme danger to society in fostering these ideas and I urge caution and "farsightedness" to predict where such racist promotions will lead our society into the future. The civil war wasn't really that long ago and was fought over these same principles. If you think about it, the civil war didn't fully end until Brown v. Board of Education in 1954 and it's subsequent civil rights acts. We've seen the destruction caused when one group of people imposes itself upon another. I urge and warn you not to promote racismby allowing it for the consequences are devastating to all of us.

Finally, if you guys are indeed promoting racist ideals, then at least be genuine and open about it and don't hide it behind some "political forum" and try to deceive people. Seriously, are you trying to start another civil war here? You can't fool all the people all of the time.

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I asked him if he was a racist.
"Just the way life is"...?
It is a sad fact that on this hallowed soil, and under this star spangled banner of freedom, blacks were more than welcomed into white neighborhoods until after January 1st, 1863.
It is. I agree. However, I have nothing but respect for hard working African Americans. The ones I see in this city, however, don't work hard and rather just want to sit on their front porches and swing life away.

I feel the same way for my fellow classmates who are lazy as well.

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Perhaps if you could see Barak Obama as a man, rather than a race, you might see the unfairness of this comment. But if Mayor Nagin is on the right track, and improving his city, then all canditates should be praising his efforts, not just one.
But this is my sense of fairness.
He is a man. As a black man he should applaud the others of his race that they are doing the correct thing in a city full of uneducated ones who believe it isn't right. Its time change really happen, and Mayor Nagin finally did it. I would think obama would be haulling ass down here.

But, the demolishment happened awhile ago.

I actually drove into one of these beast cities that are now abandoned with one of my friends one night....lets just say that i am thankful that there was a cop car that happened to be around. these are blocks of mid-city that are completely blocked off and are slowly being torn down...but, it was scary as (*)(*)(*)(*)...
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I'm not a racist but I could say:
Come on, at least support freedom of speech for your own sake.
Sure you could say that, but it doesn't really make any sense to anyone but you. Swapping the word "liberal" in for "racist" is quite rediculous. These are two different words with different meanings. Swapping words is not a substitute for an argument, especially one where you appear to be advocating for a person's right to be a racist. It's just not a valid argument at all--quite disingenuous in fact.

Yes freedom of speech and yada yada; alls I'm saying is that it's socially dangerous to promote and encourage racism. That should be a no-brainer.
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