i don't see how this thread is conservative....

it is a fact of life in new orleans.

trust me, i live it everyday.

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The thread may not be conservative, but the views of the conservatives all fall into the same conclusion.

It seems to me that there are two possible conclusions one can draw by looking at Louisiana and New Orleans.

1) Blacks are prone to crime/driving down home values/ and are lazy.
These seems to be the prevailing view of the people who threw out the N word or tend to participate in those "blacks are inferior" threads.

OR

2) When a State that does not value education, took and inordinate amount of time to desegregate, terrorized its populace, elects members of the KKK in its Republican Primaries, and embraces "redneck" values...

...results in a large populace of undereducated and poverty stricken people, who like ALL poor people in America possess poor work ethics and are more likely to particpate in criminal activities.

Where "you" people see it as a race issue, I see it as an economic issue.

Poor people drive down property values.
Poor people commit crimes.

It just happens that a LARGE % of your poor population was the result of your own political agendas and ideologies.


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I guess the preferred method to combat ignorance and polarization is to allow for free and open dialogue as the alternative of censorship might be viewed as an imposition or injustice.

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If you look at who is committing the crimes in New Orleans....it isn't the whites. So that is a ridiculous comment. The blacks are the ones holding the whites at gun point up in the Garden District. You don't see whites going to the 9th ward and holding blacks at gun point.

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You've explained the problem succinctly, Ixtellor.
Too bad most Conservatives are too busy lock-stepping on this issue to see the points you raise. This is why, from time immemorial those who devalue their fellow man have had to die off, and their numbers dwindle, in order that the societies they held stagnant could break free and move forward.
How much blood has been shed by those who believed that, because "they" are different, "they" are a problem, and therefore "they" are devalued? Apparently, not enough for them.

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Interesting how, when someone explains to you the disease, you keep arguing the symptom.

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You see everything in terms of race.

I see the least advantaged and historically discriminated portions of your populace. The people that your State made into 2nd class citizens are the ones you are having problems with now. They just happen to be black. The fact is that if you had treated blonde haired-blue eyed that way for hundreds of years, you would be talking about them.

Race has nothing to do with it. It is a natural economic consequence brought on by the moronic institutional policies of your forefathers and peers.

Want to fix the problem with your poor citizens? Create a better economic environment in your State.


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So why are the Blacks commiting crimes? That is the real question I think.

Is it the institutional rascism in the South or their inability to adapt? I think it is both, moreso the institutional rascism. The South has a history of Rascism, moreso than the North and this is seen through the Civil Rights movement making it's stand in the South.

Is it coincidence that you see Liquor and Gun stores all over Black areas of town and not in the White areas? Many of you will point to the demand of such items in Black communities over White ones but imagine if they tried opening up Gun and Liquor stores all over Beverly Hills!!!! It would'nt happen....

Isn't this a surprise, Blacks are commiting crimes in New Orleans? Maybe their (*)(*)(*)(*)ed off with a city, state and country that abandoned them. It is ridiculous that there was no plan for New Orleans considering it is 20 feet below sea level. The fact remains that America has engineered a system that lets the Whites keep the majority of the money and feel proud about it!

Black families and White families can live side by side, I know because I share residence with many different ethnicities and it's only the ignorant idiots who cannot deal with it. Cultural differences do not mean people cannot get along, we have the same anatomy physically and mentally.

People cling onto the 'Us' and 'Them' mentality where in fact there is no 'Us' and 'Them' only one. We are a sea of molecules bouncing off each other all bound together. I think it is important to get physics involved in discussions like this because people cling to the 'Us' and 'Them' mentality which is all BS!

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False dichotomy. There are other possibilities. for instance, when education is provided and people fail to take advantage of it, and become reliant upon government systems of support.

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Fortunatly for me, this is not the case in Louisiana. They have a horrible educational system by choice.

If you are speaking about some populations in California that do have opportunities, you are correct.

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