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Old 05-13-2008, 06:04 PM
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Why even have immigration laws if you aren't going to enforce them.
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Actually. Even with the taxes that some of them pay. There is still a 10 billion dollar deficit on what they take.
Those numbers are in dispute, and they only reflect the short-term deficit common to all new immigrants -- not the long-term benefit they and their descendants will bring.

Plus, consider that $10 billion represents roughly 30 seconds of U.S. economic output.

The problem can be very large on a local level, but on a national scale it's small.
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:16 PM
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Plus, consider that $10 billion represents roughly 30 seconds of U.S. economic output.
So by your math and logic, we should be able to pay off our national debt in less than a half hour...

Illegal immigrants of all varieties are a drag on our economy, and more specifically our health care system.

None of that matter though, because we have immigration laws in this country. In Mexico, immigration laws are a federal offense and one that you can be imprisoned for. But we're supposed to throw open our arms and welcome any and all comers regardless of what legislation has been passed. That's nonsense I say, if we're going to leave this law unenforced what's next?
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Those numbers are in dispute, and they only reflect the short-term deficit common to all new immigrants -- not the long-term benefit they and their descendants will bring.

Actually. That is an annual estimate. As some politicians have said with other matters. What else could we have done with the money used here, for this other purpose?

Answer me this (yes we all know the answer). How long have there been illegals? What have they contributed as a whole to justify it?

To the rest of your post. That is just ridiculous.
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As Juan Hernandez, campaign advisor of McCain, put it refering to legal and illegal immigration; good things cost money. So as long as immigrants continue to contribute to the 'american way of life', they should be rewarded, and their burden subsidized for making your life more comfortable. American people from both the private and public sector have realized this thats why some american banks allow mexicans to open bank bank accounts using mexican id, and american politicans have opted to allow illegal immigrants amnesty, if you will, so they can continue providing the services they do. This arguement is irrelevant in the light of things because as long as so called 'anchor babies' reach 18(voting age), and illegal immigrants strive to become citizens the political clout of immigrants, and thus their staying power, is increased. This would happen even if today we stopped all illegal immigration, its just that illegal immigration makes it a whole lot faster.
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Take any demographic or economic indicator and compare it to your home State. Then pack your bags.

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nah, we can afford to have all the illegals we want. plenty of work to go around out here.
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nah, we can afford to have all the illegals we want.
Good, you can have ours!
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Good, you can have ours!
And you can watch as their society progresses. They'll do jobs we don't want to do which will facilitate growth of other sectors because resources can be better spent. Britain let in a bunch of Eastern Europeans and they have come over and done the economy miracles by allowing jobs that were unfilled.

Immigrant labor allows a society to better manage its resources, that is, the ability to employ the right people for the right jobs. When the immigrants leave your state and you have no one to serve you your Whoppers or clean your streets then I'll be civil and let you come in live in our society
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And you can watch as their society progresses. They'll do jobs we don't want to do which will facilitate growth of other sectors because resources can be better spent. Britain let in a bunch of Eastern Europeans and they have come over and done the economy miracles by allowing jobs that were unfilled.

Immigrant labor allows a society to better manage its resources, that is, the ability to employ the right people for the right jobs. When the immigrants leave your state and you have no one to serve you your Whoppers or clean your streets then I'll be civil and let you come in live in our society
Then why does California rank 48th in unemployment?????

The only states with higher unemployment is Alaska and Michigan.


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