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You forgot: Republican controlled congress. Also, Clinton was riding the dot.com boom that was pretty much NONE of his doing. He was just in the right place at the right time.


Nevermind the fact that our enemy leveled two of our buildings, full of innocent civilians!!! What did you expect? A president to cower under his desk (oh, wait...that was his intern), and hope the bad guys go away? I'm glad we had a president who had the initiative to take the fight to these guys, instead of lobbing a single rocket into an aspirin factory, and puffing up his chest over his "accomplishments."


There's a big difference between "easy" and "simple" (as in "simpleton").
Where is his statement did you read that Max advocated "cowering" ????
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I keep waiting for some factual additions from you to your post. Please take the kindergarten politics back to the classroom.
max is just talking the same language as you Neocons so that you guys can understand !! lol
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In 1994, A democratic president erases the national debt and provides the US with its first surplus in years, which last for years to come.
with a republican congress leading the way
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In 1994, A democratic president erases the national debt.
WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AH

THE LAST TIME THERE WAS NO NATIONAL DEBT WAS UNDER ANDREW JACKSON IN 1835

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1) In 1992, Clinton was elected, and what is the first thing he tried to ram through? A huge amount of government spending, via socialized medicine. Then what happened in 1994? The Freshmen Republicans came to power, and are mostly responsible for the balanced budgets. How do I know? Just take a look at a copy of the constitution. It is Congress that controls spending, not the President. The only power Clinton had was to either sign or veto the spending bills the Republican controlled Congress gave him.

2) As for Bush, sadly to say, you are completely right, but once again, it took a Republican Congress to squander what their own party did under Clinton.

As a general rule, today's Republicans are no longer Conservative.
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In 1994, A democratic president erases the national debt and provides the US with its first surplus in years, which last for years to come.

In 2002, A Republican president erases that surplus, cripples a booming economy, sending it spiraling out of control in debt, making the US the laughingstock of the entire world.

How much easier can it be to explain. Please tell me?
I can! In 1995 William H. Gates launched Windows 95 and business would never operate the same again. They had to computerize or die. Between the business and PC markets the computer business was a 5 trillion dollar industry.

Look at the headlines from 1999:

Dell Tops $18 Billion in Annual Revenue; Internet Sales Rise to $14 Million Per Day; Company Announces 2-for-1 Stock Split - Dell Computer - Company Business and Marketing

No one in government had anything to do with that, except collecting tax from it.
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Whoever mentioned that George W Bush is actually a fiscal Liberal is 100% accurate.

Thats why I dont understand why the Conservatives defend the guy so much, the guy is a disaster fiscally.

Im ALL for cutting taxes. Heck I consider myself a fiscal Conservative for the most part. But you dont cut taxes and INCREASE government spending at the same time. Its the stupidest possible route you could ever take.

If your going to increase spending then raise taxes. I personally dont like that idea as much, however it clearly has some benefits to some people.

If your going to lower taxes, then you have to also lower government spending. I generally support this way of thinking.

But lowering taxes while increasing your spending is about the dumbest fiscal move you could ever make. We are paying the price for it.
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Whoever mentioned that George W Bush is actually a fiscal Liberal is 100% accurate.

Thats why I dont understand why the Conservatives defend the guy so much, the guy is a disaster fiscally.

Im ALL for cutting taxes. Heck I consider myself a fiscal Conservative for the most part. But you dont cut taxes and INCREASE government spending at the same time. Its the stupidest possible route you could ever take.

If your going to increase spending then raise taxes. I personally dont like that idea as much, however it clearly has some benefits to some people.

If your going to lower taxes, then you have to also lower government spending. I generally support this way of thinking.

But lowering taxes while increasing your spending is about the dumbest fiscal move you could ever make. We are paying the price for it.
I would think he'd have his term plan of lowering taxes set out before the attack. If he raised them he'd look like a bad republican and democrats will be whining saying they could do it better. Americas also got alot of debt left from WW2 right? they should fall back on that..
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Americas also got alot of debt left from WW2 right?
In a word, no. We don't.
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You forgot: Republican controlled congress. Also, Clinton was riding the dot.com boom that was pretty much NONE of his doing. He was just in the right place at the right time.


Nevermind the fact that our enemy leveled two of our buildings, full of innocent civilians!!! What did you expect? A president to cower under his desk (oh, wait...that was his intern), and hope the bad guys go away? I'm glad we had a president who had the initiative to take the fight to these guys, instead of lobbing a single rocket into an aspirin factory, and puffing up his chest over his "accomplishments."


There's a big difference between "easy" and "simple" (as in "simpleton").
Iraq has nothing to do with 911. Stop it!

I can agree that Clinton did receive some economic help from the dot.com era.

The thing that a lot of Democrats don’t like discussing is he taxed us more; but we really didn’t feel it in relation to what we were making.

Our Economy at present is being dragged down and all the gains we have attained in the world markets are not felt because of our financial burden of this occupation. The Bills have increased right along with the gains, sometimes more then the other.
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