Political Forum
     

Go Back   Political Forum > General Political Chat > Current Events


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 05-22-2008, 04:27 AM
DuH2's Avatar
DuH2 DuH2 is offline
Banned
Guru
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,116
DuH2 has a reputation beyond reputeDuH2 has a reputation beyond reputeDuH2 has a reputation beyond reputeDuH2 has a reputation beyond reputeDuH2 has a reputation beyond reputeDuH2 has a reputation beyond reputeDuH2 has a reputation beyond reputeDuH2 has a reputation beyond reputeDuH2 has a reputation beyond reputeDuH2 has a reputation beyond reputeDuH2 has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 54,285
Default Senator Harkin inserts foot in mouth.

Quote:
Harkin: McCain too 'military'

Washington, D.C. — Republican presidential candidate John McCain's family background as the son and grandson of admirals has given him a worldview shaped by the military, "and he has a hard time thinking beyond that," Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Ia., said Friday.

"I think he's trapped in that," Harkin said in a conference call with Iowa reporters. "Everything is looked at from his life experiences, from always having been in the military, and I think that can be pretty dangerous."


Harkin said that "it's one thing to have been drafted and served, but another thing when you come from generations of military people and that's just how you're steeped, how you've learned, how you've grown up."

A McCain spokesman said Harkin's remarks were offensive and showed that Democrats are out of touch with Americans' values.

"Senator Harkin's comments are an affront to the many thousands of Iowans who have served our country so valiantly for generations," said spokesman Jeff Sadosky. "This sort of attack shows just how out of touch Democratic leadership has become with the values that have made our country so great."

This is not the first time Harkin has commented about McCain. In April, Harkin said McCain's temper was "scary," and Harkin questioned whether "flying off the handle" might affect McCain's judgment in the Oval Office.

McCain, a Republican senator from Arizona, graduated from the Naval Academy in 1958 and served in the U.S. Navy as a pilot.

He was shot down in 1967 and held as a prisoner of war in Vietnam from then until 1973. McCain continued to serve in the Navy until 1981, when he retired and successfully ran for election to the U.S. House in 1982.

He was elected to the Senate in 1986 and currently serves as the top Republican on the Armed Services Committee.

McCain has pointed to his military background as an asset in his campaigns for the presidency, and has talked about it at length. But Harkin, discussing the impact of military service on the viewpoints of lawmakers, said that "different people draw different conclusions from their service."

Harkin also served as a Navy pilot during the Vietnam era but was not in combat.

He said that "I just want to be very clear there's nothing wrong with a career in the military" and that he has friends who are generals and admirals who have served the country well.

"But now McCain is running for a higher office. He's running for commander in chief, and our Constitution says that should be a civilian," Harkin said. "And in some ways, I think it would be nice if that commander in chief had some military background, but I don't know if they need a whole lot."

Sadosky said that Harkin's comments demonstrate that Democrats are gearing up an "attack machine" even before their nominee is certain.

"Our country's all-volunteer military does not serve because of a 'distorted reality,' they serve because they understand they can play a role in keeping Iowa families safe," he said.

"At a point when John McCain is calling on Americans to serve a cause greater than themselves like so many have before, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton's attack machine is gearing up to tear down someone who has served his nation throughout his life. Certainly not the 'new politics of hope' that we've heard so much about."

Neither of the Democratic presidential candidates served in the military.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/app...0330/1001/NEWS


This is about as stupid a set of comments as John Kerry's comments in 2004 about not having a good education and the military.

The Democrats (esp Obama) have enough problem being viewed as not very supportive of the military as it is.
I bet Harkin will come out and apologize sometime in the next 24 hours but the damage has been done.

Last edited by DuH2; 05-22-2008 at 04:30 AM.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Red Cross - Donate Today    Save the Rainforest
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 05-22-2008, 04:35 AM
Andaras Andaras is offline
Banned
Sr. Correspondent
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 501
Andaras is on a distinguished road
Credits: 2,695
Default

Great values? Like warmongering, militarism and aggressive rhetoric?

McCain is a dangerous militarist who will bloat the military to a ridiculous size and ruin American foreign policy by invading sovereign nations.

McCain would be a disaster for America.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 05-22-2008, 07:22 AM
justabubba justabubba is offline
Banned
Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,089
us north carolina
justabubba has a reputation beyond reputejustabubba has a reputation beyond reputejustabubba has a reputation beyond reputejustabubba has a reputation beyond reputejustabubba has a reputation beyond reputejustabubba has a reputation beyond reputejustabubba has a reputation beyond reputejustabubba has a reputation beyond reputejustabubba has a reputation beyond reputejustabubba has a reputation beyond reputejustabubba has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 57,172
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DuH2 View Post
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/app...0330/1001/NEWS


This is about as stupid a set of comments as John Kerry's comments in 2004 about not having a good education and the military.

The Democrats (esp Obama) have enough problem being viewed as not very supportive of the military as it is.
I bet Harkin will come out and apologize sometime in the next 24 hours but the damage has been done.
harkin made a personal observation that mKKKain, being raised as a third generation career military officer has a very narrow mindset
it's not a perspective i agree with but it's also just one person's opinion
nothing to get your panties in a wad about
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 05-22-2008, 08:55 AM
The12thMan's Avatar
The12thMan The12thMan is offline
Site Moderator
Guru
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 19,301
usa us texas
The12thMan has a reputation beyond reputeThe12thMan has a reputation beyond reputeThe12thMan has a reputation beyond reputeThe12thMan has a reputation beyond reputeThe12thMan has a reputation beyond reputeThe12thMan has a reputation beyond reputeThe12thMan has a reputation beyond reputeThe12thMan has a reputation beyond reputeThe12thMan has a reputation beyond reputeThe12thMan has a reputation beyond reputeThe12thMan has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 309,087
Default

Democrats seem to have a knack for insulting large swaths of the population. Who have they not insulted?
__________________
The way we get into these scrapes and get out of them, it's almost as though someone was dreaming up these situations; guiding our destiny. ~The Boy Wonder, alter ego of Dick Grayson, young ward of millionaire Bruce Wayne.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 05-22-2008, 08:57 AM
raytri's Avatar
raytri raytri is online now
Site Moderator
Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Minnesota
Age: 42
Posts: 19,877
usa us minnesota
raytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond reputeraytri has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 126,844
Default

I understand what Harkin was trying to say, but that was a pretty stupid comment. Being raised in a military family does not necessarily make one militaristic.
__________________
Man up.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Harkin Back DiscerningBlog Political Blogs 0 05-18-2008 11:00 AM
Something new on foot and mouth outbreak in GB Morbo Western Europe 3 09-23-2007 05:23 AM
Foot in mouth disease Jake Off-Topic Chat 12 03-26-2007 12:58 PM
Teresa inserts foot.....AGAIN JP5 Elections & Campaigns 39 10-21-2004 07:45 PM
Heinz-Kerry sticks her foot in her mouth... AGAIN Hansmoleman Current Events 37 09-21-2004 10:17 AM

Sponsored Links

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
Template-Modifikationen durch TMS
vBCredits v1.3 ©2007 by Darkwaltz4
Advertisement System V2.1 By   Branden