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Old 06-10-2008, 07:05 AM
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Do you similarly dismiss death threats directed towards domestic violence victims by angry ex-boyfriends and/or ex-spouses? Or, do you think they should be followed up on by the law enforcement officials?

So, whether it is a gang member threatening to kill a witness to a crime...
Or, an angry boyfriend threatening to kill his intimate partner...
Or, the KKK threatening a black man who dates a white woman in Alabama...
Or, an Islamisist/fundamentalist mormon/other religious whackjob threatening to someone who leaves...

They all deserve due seriousness. Because you know what, Makedde? I have experience with religious groups in the U.S. doing all of the above, including killing apostates.

When people make these threats, we have to take them seriously.
I am sure my Government is taking them seriously, I am not sure about anyone else. I am not sure if the people threatened are taking this seriously. I am sure if there was cause for concern, they would be notified.

I don't condone death threats - but if someone on this site threatened me with death I wouldn't take it seriously. I'd be insulted and would report them, but I wouldn't take it seriously.
Obviously not the same thing, I know. I would take a threat seriously if someone threatened me to my face, though - I'd have cause for concern then.
I don't know where these threats in my country were made from.
I should check the link again.
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Where are death threats so (apparently) easily tolerated in Australia?

"LEAVE THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND AND WE'LL KILL YOU!" would be met with utter disgust by the rest of the world if the Brits did it, but if done in the name of the 7th-century warlord it seems just fine, eh?

No "religion of peace" KILLS you if you criticize it or leave it. The illogical though-process in Sharia Law is staggering.

I'm glad I was born in a free country, and we've resisted tyranny for over 200 years.
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I don't condone death threats - but if someone on this site threatened me with death I wouldn't take it seriously. I'd be insulted and would report them, but I wouldn't take it seriously.
If someone threatened you on this site, they would be banned.
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You honestly believe that every Islamic woman is unhappy and fears for her life?
I think that a good many would be treated well, and would be happy in their religion.
Did I SAY that? Sheesh.

Obviously a good many are being treated well. This isn't about those who are treated well, however, as it is about those who aren't and the way Islam is used to perpetuate such. Islam, as expressed through it's legal system contributes to the systematic denial of basic rights for women.

Why you refuse to educate yourself even a tiny bit on the subject is anybody's guess, but your talking to one or two people over the internet is meaningless. You need to study the actual issue of Islamic law. Women's second class status is codified into such law, incontrovertibly so, and all your denial and apologia is just that. You are simply dreaming up a bunch of stuff based upon you imagination and lack of knowlege rather than studying anything.
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"Islam, as expressed through it's legal system contributes to the systematic denial of basic rights for women."
....truer words were never spoken.

But where is N.O.W. and the other "mainstream" women's rights group on this INSTITUTIONALIZED discrimination of women!? This should their #1 cause.

What can we do to increase freedoms for women in oppressed Islamic lands?

In Yemen recently, an EIGHT year-old girl filed for DIVORCE, bravely ON HER OWN, from her 30 year old abusive husband! Where were her parents in all this!? Google it, since you probably don't believe this.

What would a 30 year old man possibly want with a seven or eight year old liitle girl who's young enough to be his daughter?....oh, uh, I know.

In the modern world we call this long-held, Mohammad-approved, Islamic practice "statutory rape", and throw the pervert in jail where he belongs. Yemen should join the modern world, those sickos.
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If someone threatened you on this site, they would be banned.
Oh, I know that, but the difference between getting a threat on this site and a threat from someone who knew my whereabouts is obvious. I'd be more likely to take a threat seriously if that threat were issued by someone who knew where I lived.
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In Yemen recently, an EIGHT year-old girl filed for DIVORCE, bravely ON HER OWN, from her 30 year old abusive husband! Where were her parents in all this!? Google it, since you probably don't believe this.
How long had she been married?
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Makedde, she'd been married for 2 months the CNN article says:
wap.cnn.com/xhtml/en/p/a/wo_me/yemen.child.ap/1732/2.html

Like I've posted before, she was basically "sold" by her parents, this seems like an Islamic tradition that shoud clearly change, to be more like superior Western Culture.

Makedde, you condemn Islam for allowing rape of children, correct (remember, this pedophilia all started when Mohammad was boinking Aisha at 9, for his own sexual lust)?
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