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Old 06-12-2008, 04:37 PM
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White Fox, you are ASSUMING our Islamic enemies are rational.

What's rational about a pedophile being considered "the perfect man"?

Or about KILLING people who convert to Bhuddhism?

Or about saying "there are no gays in Iran"?

Or about KILLING GAYS like the gov't does in The Islamic Republic of Iran just for being gay (....oh NOW I get it why "there are no gays in Iran"!)

Or Iranian gov't officials saying America is the "great satan", and that "Israel will be wiped off the map"?

Or that the Holocaust didn't happen?

Or Iranian President saying that there is a 12th Mahdi HIDING IN A WELL somewhere?


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The people around 1939 who turned a blind eye while a Jew-hating supremacist started his hoped-for slaughter of an entire race ALSO said: "We need to get things right as to how we treat our own people righy, right her, right now!!!!"

Please don't be so selfish as to only be concerned about "us". Please be more caring than that.
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The people around 1939 who turned a blind eye while a Jew-hating supremacist started his hoped-for slaughter of an entire race ALSO said: "We need to get things right as to how we treat our own people righy, right her, right now!!!!"

Please don't be so selfish as to only be concerned about "us". Please be more caring than that.
we had several people bashing islam before you here. they were all full of hate, you seem like being full of fear!! GOD, go get a life, no one's gonna attack you!

I suggest you hiring a bodyguard though, the dogs and cats in the street can be really dangerous, they're armed with the newest bacterias from islamic Bio-terrorism labs!!

(seriously, are you living in uranus?! )
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I am sure this has happened but it is not the case for most Muslims. I know Jews (not bashing, I am proIsrael) who have disowned family members for converting. Radical mormon sects have "divine atonement" where they kill people to save them. Usually this is for leaving their belief system. You can't say that Mormons are blood thirsty for a few. It is the radicals that get most publicity. How many new stations want to broadcast: Christian church gives to the homeless, Muslim or Jewish family living a peaceful life. No, people want to hear Christian pastor preaches hate for gays or Muslim terrorist blows himself up in a mall. This sells more newspapers.
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In accordance with the favorite book of multiple posters on this very forum, Muslims will kill people who DARE to be involved with the evil act of the marrying of a Muslim woman to a (*gasp*) NON-Muslim man!
Note the word "extremists". It actually has meaning.
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SSS, I don't hate Muslims, but I do strongly dislike a belief system that discriminates against non-believers, limits freedoms, and also that effectively rapes little girls: an 8 year-old girl had to seek a divorce from her perverse Islamic "husband' who was abusing her sexually, recently in Yemen (google it)....EIGHT! Her parents arranged the marriage (obviously.) EIGHT! Mohammad damaged Aisha at 9, so I guess it's ok, folks?
While you don't hate Muslims, you don't make an active effort to understand their religion. All of these English interpretations of the texts that you're finding to break down the religion as discriminatory and corrupt are incorrect. You're looking for what you WANT to find - a corrupt religion. It's just not.

No where in history has there been a civilization that was lead by honest people who thought it right to enslave others, murder their women and children, rape women and children, and kill others of the same species. NO WHERE. These actions come from corrupt people who are using a good thing for evil ends. Why don't you educate yourself instead of looking for validation for the belief that we are up against a supreme enemy, that which loves to rape children. These horrible actions come from a few, corrupt people within this beautiful religion that are exploiting it. Christians do horrible things too. As do Jews, Mormons, Pagans, Atheists, etc.

People are evil, not religions. Just because someone does something stupid doesn't mean a person that YOU can categorize as similar will do the same thing. I remember hearing about a young woman who drowned her babies because God told her to do so. She was Christian. Should we then accuse all Christians of killing babies? Absolutely not. It's frustrating seeing post after post from you about "Muslims did this, are they evil?" etc, etc, especially after your misinterpretation of the "woman beating" passage in the Quran.

PLEASE. I'm not being cocky or elitist. I by NO means think I'm better than you. Please educate yourself about these people and their religion. There can only be peace through mutual understanding.

People of all interests do horrible things. Just because we happen to be at war with an Arab nation doesn't mean we should diminish the credibility of a national interest. Why? So we can legitimize our occupancy? So we have someone to point the finger at when gas prices rise? It's unfounded cultural ignorance.
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I have had it up to here with the threads about how 'bad' Islam is.
Freedom Seeker, have you even read the Quran? I doubt you have because you clearly know nothing about the religion of Islam.
How about you actually go out and speak to a few Muslims, and ask them all your questions? You'd be pleasantly surprised.
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While you don't hate Muslims, you don't make an active effort to understand their religion. All of these English interpretations of the texts that you're finding to break down the religion as discriminatory and corrupt are incorrect. You're looking for what you WANT to find - a corrupt religion. It's just not.

People are evil, not religions. Just because someone does something stupid doesn't mean a person that YOU can categorize as similar will do the same thing. I remember hearing about a young woman who drowned her babies because God told her to do so. She was Christian. Should we then accuse all Christians of killing babies? Absolutely not. It's frustrating seeing post after post from you about "Muslims did this, are they evil?" etc, etc, especially after your misinterpretation of the "woman beating" passage in the Quran.
Wonderful post, SSS. I doubt FF will even take notice of this *EDIT*.
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What's rational about a pedophile being considered "the perfect man"?

Or about KILLING people who convert to Bhuddhism?

Or about saying "there are no gays in Iran"?

Or about KILLING GAYS like the gov't does in The Islamic Republic of Iran just for being gay (....oh NOW I get it why "there are no gays in Iran"!)

Or Iranian gov't officials saying America is the "great satan", and that "Israel will be wiped off the map"?

Or that the Holocaust didn't happen?

Or Iranian President saying that there is a 12th Mahdi HIDING IN A WELL somewhere?

Who the (*)(*)(*)(*) cares? *EDIT* There are more important things to worry about than someone else's religion. *EDIT*
*EDIT* Enough with the Islam bashing.
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I think the same. tactics are different, goals seems the same to me.
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