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Old 06-24-2008, 06:00 AM
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Part of being in a free society is that a person is allowed to be a socialist, a conservative, an anarchist, a zealot, anti-authoritarian, or whatever he or she wants.

That goes for public and private sectors.
It also means that they're allowed to be a Fascist, a Racist, a Bigot, a Lier, yes whatever they want but it doesn't mean that we all have to like it and it doesn't mean that we have to support it.

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Old 06-24-2008, 06:17 AM
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It also means that they're allowed to be a Fascist, a Racist, a Bigot, a Lier, yes whatever they want but it doesn't mean that we all have to like it and it doesn't mean that we have to support it.

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America is a business run society, which means we are no more free now than if we were a socialist country.

We can only be free when America embraces a true Democratic format that has a mix of socialism and capitalism, a free flow of information, with moral and ethical codes at its base...not militarism, classism and rampant tyranny.
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America is a business run society, which means we are no more free now than if we were a socialist country.

We can only be free when America embraces a true Democratic format that has a mix of socialism and capitalism, a free flow of information, with moral and ethical codes at its base...not militarism, classism and rampant tyranny.
Capitalism is the freedom to do just about anything you want to do. Socialism is a system where you must do what society wants you to do.

How is it even physically possible to act like both are forms of tyranny and that capitalism is not about freedom. Militarism, classism, and rampant tyranny can all be parts of socialism, just look at the USSR. A true capitalist state would be nearly devoid of any standing army, would have absolutely no classes that could not be transcended, and would have almost no government to be rampantly tyrannical.
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Part of being in a free society is that a person is allowed to be a socialist, a conservative, an anarchist, a zealot, anti-authoritarian, or whatever he or she wants.

That goes for public and private sectors.
Absolutely...and we are free to tar and feather her for that belief. Let it commence.

On another note, who was surprised she's socialist? Most lazy people are.
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We can only be free when America embraces a true Democratic format that has a mix of socialism and capitalism, a free flow of information, with moral and ethical codes at its base...not militarism, classism and rampant tyranny.
That's where you are 100% wrong, if I a high school dropout, could start my own technology company and work for myself and employ others, then ANYONE can do the same.

What are you passionate about? Turn it into a business.

Businesses are MUCH harder to start in Socialist countries, because "In the interest of Fairness" they regulate every action you take. This is why The U.S. has a higher standard of living than any other area of the world, because our SMALL businesses pick up the slack that the big businesses leave behind.

If you don't have the freedom to strike out on your own and be the master of your own destiny, then you're nothing more than an indentured servant for the state.
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I knew someone would defend a socialist elected to congress under the cloak of a liberal! Ive said it once and I will say it again. Liberals get the socialist vote because liberals have a socialist agenda. This is undenyable!

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America is a business run society, which means we are no more free now than if we were a socialist country.

We can only be free when America embraces a true Democratic format that has a mix of socialism and capitalism, a free flow of information, with moral and ethical codes at its base...not militarism, classism and rampant tyranny.
A mix of socialism? I guess this is where the democrats come in to play? To add the needed socialism to our economy? You do know that nearly 50% of the most wealthy people in the world built them selves up from NOTHING!!?? Thankg god for a capitalist America!
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Part of being in a free society is that a person is allowed to be a socialist, a conservative, an anarchist, a zealot, anti-authoritarian, or whatever he or she wants.

That goes for public and private sectors.
Yeah, you are free to be a stupid, elitist, stuffy-headed, pseudointellectual, teenager throwing an extended tantrum at society.
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Why does the left defend socialism?
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Why does the left defend socialism?
Somehow I think you mean "American liberals" instead of "the left" because the left IS socialism (and Communism). That is the question I will address.

American liberals sometimes defend socialism because it is a political ideology sharing some artistic similarities with A. liberalism. They like the idea of equality (A. libs. often consider that an end in and of itself) and the idea that the government takes care of you (nurturing and caring bring about good images in the mind).
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