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Old 07-23-2008, 12:50 AM
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I was talking to my brother the other day about solar power, and how it is not the solution for our crisis. Think of it.

co2 now is the main contributor of the greenhouse effect. The greenhouse effect is keeping light and heatradiation (ir) inside our atmosphere.

What we are doing to solve this problem, is building solar energy collectors. But, with those energy collectors, we are trapping more light and heat radiation on the planet (ie. by means of the solar heat and radiaton collector)

All in all, we are just moving the problem around. The problem of dissipating the heat into the vacumus space is still not solved.
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CO2 is a colourless gas it doesn't trap light energy. And solar panels don't 'trap' radiation they convert it into electricity.
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Solar Energy yeah what Chief said.. plus it's great fun to kill ants with.



editohwait nevermind.. thats a magnifying glass I was thinking of.
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CO2 is a colourless gas it doesn't trap light energy. And solar panels don't 'trap' radiation they convert it into electricity.
yes, but that electricity will one way or another be converted back into heat, which still is on earth.

CO2 does trap radiation. There is no other way to dissipate heat.
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I was talking to my brother the other day about solar power, and how it is not the solution for our crisis. Think of it.

co2 now is the main contributor of the greenhouse effect. The greenhouse effect is keeping light and heatradiation (ir) inside our atmosphere.

What we are doing to solve this problem, is building solar energy collectors. But, with those energy collectors, we are trapping more light and heat radiation on the planet (ie. by means of the solar heat and radiaton collector)

All in all, we are just moving the problem around. The problem of dissipating the heat into the vacumus space is still not solved.
What problem?
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yes, but that electricity will one way or another be converted back into heat, which still is on earth.

CO2 does trap radiation. There is no other way to dissipate heat.
How did we cool before?

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yes, but that electricity will one way or another be converted back into heat, which still is on earth.

CO2 does trap radiation. There is no other way to dissipate heat.
Heat energy eventually travels back into space. No amount of CO2 will have have a dramatic effect on that. As for the solar panels if they weren't there the heat would be absorbed by a rock or a tree. Solar panels just allow us to put some of that energy into our electricity grid.
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Heat energy eventually travels back into space. No amount of CO2 will have have a dramatic effect on that. As for the solar panels if they weren't there the heat would be absorbed by a rock or a tree. Solar panels just allow us to put some of that energy into our electricity grid.
Heat does not travel back into space in the form it is in on earth. Space is Vacuum, heat can only radiate trough space. And if co2 has no effect on that, then there is no green house effect.


solar panels trap more energy then rocks and trees. Infact we need the polar ice to reflect light.
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Water vapor tends to has more of an effect on the greenhouse effect than does CO2, although one cannot truly effectively consider each chemical constituient as an island unto itself as the abscence of more than one has a greater effect than the removal of each by itself.

Really, claiming solar energy is bad for the environment is asinine on its face and speaks of a lack of understanding rather than any great insight.
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Water vapor tends to has more of an effect on the greenhouse effect than does CO2, although one cannot truly effectively consider each chemical constituient as an island unto itself as the abscence of more than one has a greater effect than the removal of each by itself.

Really, claiming solar energy is bad for the environment is asinine on its face and speaks of a lack of understanding rather than any great insight.
How so? can you tell my why solar power is so much better? I'm not saying that it is a bad thing. I'm just saying that where moving the problem around.

The basic problem is that the earth isn't dissipating enough energy of the planet. This is why the planet is heating up. What we are doing with solar power, isn't solving the dissipating effects. What we are doing is increasing the power input from outside the planet.

the rest is math. More input, same output results into a increased amount of energy on earth.

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