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Old 08-13-2008, 08:51 AM
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Default David Carr Spills the Beans On the MSM's Media Bias

David Carr, may never be seen or heard from again after this quote. How they allowed him to say this I dont know, but the cat is out of the bag on the MSM.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...108.guest.html

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"...I was taught when I was a young reporter that it's news when we say it is. I think that's still true, it's news when we say it is, it's just who "we" is has changed. Members of the public, people with modems, people with cell phones are now producers, editors, they can push and push and push on a story until tends up being acknowledged by everyone..."
Pretty sraight forward what Carr just said. The MSM make up the news, they dont just report news, they make it and they make it when they so choose to.

What is even more amazing is the last part of it. So regular, non-journalists are actually reporting the news and the MSM types are aggravated b/c the non-journalists keep harping on the stories they dont want reported yet.

Like I said in the Fairness Doctrine thread, the liberals in this country cant take the fact that they no longer have the monopoly on controlling information in the news like they use to. And they are bitter about it.

David Carr, just gave us a taste of that bitterness. The poor, insignificant blogger, just keeps pushing and pushing until they have to report it, not that they had a duty to report it in the first place, no, but that they had to report it before they could sex it up and agendasize it.
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David Carr, may never be seen or heard from again after this quote. How they allowed him to say this I dont know, but the cat is out of the bag on the MSM.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...108.guest.html

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Pretty sraight forward what Carr just said. The MSM make up the news, they dont just report news, they make it and they make it when they so choose to.
But that's not what he said at all. Why do you feel the need to make (*)(*)(*)(*) up?
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But that's not what he said at all. Why do you feel the need to make (*)(*)(*)(*) up?
Well ok, then what did he say? What part is false? He was taught as a young reporter that it is news when they say it is news. What else does that mean, other then they get to control when news is news and what is not news? Now, they are ticked that non-journalists are saying what is news and when it is news and not them.
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He's simply describing the traditional gatekeeper role/responsibility that the press has always had. Once a respected publication writes a story about something, it becomes news; that's just the way it is. So make sure the story deserves that kind of attention, and isn't just made up of innuendo, rumor, scandal-mongering, speculation, etc.

Beyond that, reporters don't write articles about everything they hear/know. They couldn't, even if they wanted to -- not enough time or newspaper pages. But good publications also only write stories that are verified, legitimate, newsworthy and relevant. Which means a lot of potentially juicy stories never see daylight, because they cannot be verified. And a lot of small stories don't get written because they aren't newsworthy.
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Well ok, then what did he say? What part is false? He was taught as a young reporter that it is news when they say it is news. What else does that mean, other then they get to control when news is news and what is not news? Now, they are ticked that non-journalists are saying what is news and when it is news and not them.
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it's news when we say it is. I think that's still true, it's news when we say it is, it's just who "we" is has changed. Members of the public, people with modems, people with cell phones are now producers, editors, they can push and push and push on a story until tends up being acknowledged by everyone...
Nothing indicates, as you do, that they "Make it up."

Why lie?
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First part of the quote...

If the media ignores a fire, then it's not news. If they REPORT the fire, it IS news.

If the media ignores the invalid reasons for the runup to a war, then it's not news. If the media REPORTS on it, then it IS news.

Second part of the quote...

It's not just the assignment editors deciding what should or should not be reported. It's everyone with a blog, a cellphone camera, access to You Tube and an opinion.

I hope I clearned that up for you, Hat.
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As far as I can tell, Carr said NOTHING about liberals, but Limbaugh tried to spin it into an anti-left diatribe. The thread parent just parroted Limbaugh's unsubstantiated propaganda.
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As far as I can tell, Carr said NOTHING about liberals, but Limbaugh tried to spin it into an anti-left diatribe. The thread parent just parroted Limbaugh's unsubstantiated propaganda.
...as, sadly, they so oftimes do. Limpball counts on his audience to swallow without question.
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He's simply describing the traditional gatekeeper role/responsibility that the press has always had. Once a respected publication writes a story about something, it becomes news;

You got the gatekeeper part right...lol. They hold news stories until election year and then use it to harm candidates.

Respected pubs write stories that are untrue, ever heard of Dan Rather?

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that's just the way it is. So make sure the story deserves that kind of attention, and isn't just made up of innuendo, rumor, scandal-mongering, speculation, etc.
Or they could simply go ask John Edwards themselves about the story itself. But we all know they take their que from the DNC. Funny how Andrea Mitchell last week was loathing how they had to cover this story and how they didnt like covering sex scandals like this, but they sure dont see a problem of doing so when it is a GOP member.

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Beyond that, reporters don't write articles about everything they hear/know. They couldn't, even if they wanted to -- not enough time or newspaper pages. But good publications also only write stories that are verified, legitimate, newsworthy and relevant. Which means a lot of potentially juicy stories never see daylight, because they cannot be verified. And a lot of small stories don't get written because they aren't newsworthy.
And alot of inuendo gets thrown into them as well, b/c all the MSMs have their own agendas to play out.
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