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Old 08-14-2008, 09:19 AM
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Two weeks ago, this violence erupted in Knoxnille, Tennessee:

Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity On Accused Shooter's Reading List

Jim David Adkisson killed two and injured six inside the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church during a children's play on Sunday morning, June 28th, shouting "hateful words" before he opened fire with a shotgun. Chief Sterling P. Owen IV of the Knoxville Police Department said the following day that Adkisson was motivated by a hatred for liberals and homosexuals.

Yesterday, THIS violence erupted in Little Rock, Arkansas:

Arkansas Democratic Chairman Dies From Gunshot Injuries

A man recently fired from a Target store barged into the Arkansas Democratic headquarters Wednesday and fatally shot the state party chairman before speeding off in his pickup. Police later shot and killed the suspect after a 30-mile chase. Police identified the suspect as 50-year-old Timothy Dale Johnson of Searcy, a town about 50 miles northeast of Little Rock. They said that moments after the shooting, Johnson pointed a handgun at a worker at the nearby Arkansas Baptist headquarters. An official there said he told the worker, "I lost my job."

I would like to know if these shootings are related to each other as a result of the pervasive atmosphere of distrust and even outright hatred deliberately sown by obnoxious rightwing media pundits over the last decade and a half. Has the right's vile eliminationist rhetoric finally come home to roost? Do Coulter, Boortz, Liddy, Savage, Malkin, Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly and all the rest now have three murders to answer for? Will there be more? And is it telling that both of these events took place in two of the ten poorest states in the union as determined by the Census Bureau?
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:31 AM
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Two weeks ago, this violence erupted in Knoxnille, Tennessee:

Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity On Accused Shooter's Reading List

Jim David Adkisson killed two and injured six inside the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church during a children's play on Sunday morning, June 28th, shouting "hateful words" before he opened fire with a shotgun. Chief Sterling P. Owen IV of the Knoxville Police Department said the following day that Adkisson was motivated by a hatred for liberals and homosexuals.

Yesterday, THIS violence erupted in Little Rock, Arkansas:

Arkansas Democratic Chairman Dies From Gunshot Injuries

A man recently fired from a Target store barged into the Arkansas Democratic headquarters Wednesday and fatally shot the state party chairman before speeding off in his pickup. Police later shot and killed the suspect after a 30-mile chase. Police identified the suspect as 50-year-old Timothy Dale Johnson of Searcy, a town about 50 miles northeast of Little Rock. They said that moments after the shooting, Johnson pointed a handgun at a worker at the nearby Arkansas Baptist headquarters. An official there said he told the worker, "I lost my job."

I would like to know if these shootings are related to each other as a result of the pervasive atmosphere of distrust and even outright hatred deliberately sown by obnoxious rightwing media pundits over the last decade and a half. Has the right's vile eliminationist rhetoric finally come home to roost? Do Coulter, Boortz, Liddy, Savage, Malkin, Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly and all the rest now have three murders to answer for? Will there be more? And is it telling that both of these events took place in two of the ten poorest states in the union as determined by the Census Bureau?
WOW! Is it any more telling that this belongs in the Conspiracy Theory Section?
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"Tomorrow, you're all going to wake up in a Brave New World, a world where the Constitution gets trampled by an army of terrorist clones created in a stem cell research laboratory, run by homosexual doctors who sterilize their instruments over burning American flags!"


So after reading this and I go into a church and kill them, you should be held responsible?

They are nuts, just loony people.
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WOW! Is it any more telling that this belongs in the Conspiracy Theory Section?
And pray what led you to THAT ridiculous conclusion??
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So after reading this and I go into a church and kill them, you should be held responsible?

They are nuts, just loony people.
Your chain of logic escapes me. OF COURSE they're loony people! Anybody who considers murder an answer to ANYTHING is no longer to be considered sane!

Yet you're denying that there are whackjobs out there who can be led, can be influenced? I'd like to see you prove THAT.

Furthermore, it is established fact that the right has assembled an extremely efficient message machine which CONSTANTLY pushes their divisive--and yes, eliminationist--rhetoric in every available communications medium. In a newspaper column Ann Coulter suggested putting "rat poison" in the creme brulee of a Supreme Court Justice, for crying out loud! She said, on another occasion, it was a shame Tim McVeigh hadn't visited the New York Times Building. Are you going to sit there and attempt to claim that nobody could ever possibly take her seriously? Especially when she shows up on television REGULARLY and reinforces such inflammatory claims? And writes books which do the same thing?

You yourself pointed out that these are "loony people." Those are the kinds of things "loony people" do; it's what makes them "loony."
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I think it's highly irresponsible for Coulter and Limbaugh and their ilk to get rich by peddling hatred, because it could push some deranged souls into committing acts of violence. However, since free speech is one of our cherished rights, we can only appeal to their sense of decency and ask them to tone down their rhetoric.

Good luck on that.
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I think it's highly irresponsible for Coulter and Limbaugh and their ilk to get rich by peddling hatred, because it could push some deranged souls into committing acts of violence. However, since free speech is one of our cherished rights, we can only appeal to their sense of decency and ask them to tone down their rhetoric.

Good luck on that.
Decency.... right.

Just yesterday, Rush Limbaugh implied that if John Edwards' wife had done less talking and more sucking, Edwards might not have had an affair.

What a pile of fly-blown bovine excrement that guy is... His fans must be so proud.
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Decency.... right.

Just yesterday, Rush Limbaugh implied that if John Edwards' wife had done less talking and more sucking, Edwards might not have had an affair.

What a pile of fly-blown bovine excrement that guy is... His fans must be so proud.
Yeah, I know. I have no expectations of him or Coulter showing any decency. They're getting rich off of peddling hatred, and some people seem to get off on hatred the way some get off on porn.
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Oh I understood what you said. But you fail to see that I was quoting your sig.


"This irrational and virulent hatred radiates from elected officials to all those who elected them. I saw a T-shirt in a Palm Springs shop that said, "So many right-wing Christians, so few lions." Hilarious, n'est-ce pas? Nothing funnier than religious believers being ripped to shreds by wild animals in front of cheering pagans."


This stuff is on the left too, I am kinda surprised that you failed to mention that. So unless you are implying that when anyone prints and/or says anything that might invoke violence over another human being, illegal. You have no ground to stand on.


http://www.boston.com/news/globe/edi...l_hate_speech/


As in years past, Republicans were almost routinely associated with Nazi Germany. Former Vice President Al Gore referred to GOP activists as "brown shirts." Newsday columnist Hugh Pearson likened the Republican National Convention to the "Nazi rallies held in Germany during the reign of Adolf Hitler." Linda Ronstadt said that the Republican victory on Election Day meant "we've got a new bunch of Hitlers." Chuck Turner, a Boston city councilor, smeared National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice as "a tool of white leaders," like "a Jewish person working for Hitler."
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This is why I don't listen to political talk radio. Stuff'll drive you crazy.

And yes, Republicans do get compared to Nazis a lot, but usually only when they resemble Nazis a lot. Pro-war, pro-torture, pro-spying on citizens -- these things ring bells with people.

Now, having said that -- did I say anything like, "All Republicans should be killed!" at all? I don't think so. Meanwhile, right-wing pundits do call for the deaths of liberals. Coulter does it practically monthly.

Nothing to do about it, really. Just hope people smarten up, I guess. And do my push-ups, in case some nut decides to attack me for being an outspoken liberal. Seems unlikely, but you never know these days.
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