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Old 09-17-2004, 09:37 AM
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Given the choice of either "igniting the Arab region" or letting Iran develop nuclear weapons, I'll opt for the first without blinking.
And I see this as a major problem plaguing the US. Too many people would be quick to incite massive death and destruction for the sake of preventing a country from possibly developing a nuke. This type of paranoia and utter self-absorption -- not terrorism -- will bring us down as a society.


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That would take less than a full invasion, but accomplishing this goal and keeping them in check would not be easily done. It would require a great deal of effort, more than some bombs dropped and SF roaming around.
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What do you mean by "keeping them in check"? If they attempt any sort of conventional warfare they will be crushed, plain and simple.
I mean that if we were to take out KNOWN nuclear facilities, that would not be the end of it. Keeping them from continuing with the program is another matter; bombs are not the answer to everything.

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Sorry, the thought of Iran "rubbing its palms together now at the ease with which they can meddle in our affairs" is ludicrous. They are worried. Very worried.
Are you denying that Iran has been infiltrating Iraq and undermining our interests there, and is glad to do it? Are you denying that Iran can see (just as the world and our own military brass can see) how US military resources are stretched thin right now? Iran also knows that most Americans would not support another military incursion.

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They see a nuclear bomb as the only way to protect themselves from America.
They're right.
So in essence, you are saying that US aggression has increased the nuclear arms race. I agree.
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Old 09-17-2004, 10:12 AM
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Not gonna get into a spitting match with ya today...

I am against Iran owning nuclear weapons due to their stated intentions of ACTUALLY USING THEM ON ISREAL. The statement(and I am paraphrasing here...) was that the world would know when Iran had a nuke because Tel Aviv would be glowing.. the Iranians also contend that they could absorb a retalitiory nuclear strike whereas Isreal would be devastated by a singular nuclear weapon due to the discrepancies in the 2 nations populations...

That is why someone needs to turn Iran into a nice sheet of glass resplendant with fulgurites.... if we have to do it so be it....
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Old 09-21-2004, 08:00 AM
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Not gonna get into a spitting match with ya today...

I am against Iran owning nuclear weapons due to their stated intentions of ACTUALLY USING THEM ON ISREAL. The statement(and I am paraphrasing here...) was that the world would know when Iran had a nuke because Tel Aviv would be glowing.. the Iranians also contend that they could absorb a retalitiory nuclear strike whereas Isreal would be devastated by a singular nuclear weapon due to the discrepancies in the 2 nations populations...

That is why someone needs to turn Iran into a nice sheet of glass resplendant with fulgurites.... if we have to do it so be it....
SO you are going to kill 80 millions because they have threatened to kill 10 millions? Sounds hard.
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