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Just using your definition, kid. This is the same thing Obama wants -- careful withdrawal of American troops from Iraq with the Iraqis taking control of their own security. You cats keep calling it "surrender." Now that Bush is doing the same thing, all of a sudden it's a great idea. Why is that?
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Obama, Jovial, has come around to Bush's plan, yet still hammers McCain for being like Bush....lol. There is nothing in Obama's plan that Bush is not already doing....lol. McBushObama. Lets face the facts, we are in Iraq no matter who is President.
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No his plan was to GTFO by 2010. This, however, is the Iraqis saying that they can handle it. So we're working out the details for leaving, which we've always wanted to do. It's just coincidence that we've won already. The distinction would be clearer if it would take another year or so. Luckily this means that even if Obama is elected we'll still have a positive outcome in Iraq. The Democrats just took too long to gain enough power to lose the war.
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Funny hearing a Bush supporter talking about diplomatic relations. heehee
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It wasnt THEIR country when we went in, it was SADDAM's. THEY, were being torchered, raped, and murdered as SADDAM saw fit. Didnt you get that memo? Of I fogot, CNN sat on SADDAM's human rights violations b/c they wanted to stay in Iraq. What a trade off.
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Pres. Bush was ALWAYS going to get a plan in place for withdrawal BEFORE he left office. As usual, Obama and the Dems caught wind early on of what would occur from the Bush administration in the next few months, and then started talking "as if" it was their plan.
Bush's plan is NOT surrender---and what's more YOU know it. Saying it over and over again, does NOT make it so. Bush's plan is far more comprehensive and well-thought-out than anything Obama could come up with. But apparently----looking at his lost momentum and the polls, I'd say we may not have to worry about it anyway! <LOL>
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