Again, Liberal hysteria.

We have been at war with Iraq since 1991. Just humor just an inch please. Put things into historical perspectives please, just once.

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If I had the option of voting 2000 and 2004 over again, I would still vote Bush.

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia. Is that what you're saying?

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"If there is anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all things are possible, who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in our time, who still questions the power of our democracy, tonight is your answer."

--President-elect Barack Obama
November 5, 2008

Surrender referred to those on the left calling for an immediate pull out. The left is unhappy that they no longer have something to whine about.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

Obama isn't CALLING for an immediate pullout.

Please deal in facts from now on.

Thank you.

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"If there is anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all things are possible, who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in our time, who still questions the power of our democracy, tonight is your answer."

--President-elect Barack Obama
November 5, 2008

No but many on the left did. That is a fact. You're welcome. Obama only called for withdrawal from Iraq in 2007 when speaking in 2006. If he had followed his disasterous plan and those on the left who wanted immediate pullout things wouldn't be as positive as they are today. http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/...raq/index.html

Now he's calling for a 16 month pullout. Given this disaster of a declaration I say he has no credibility on the issue.

Oops. Now for the correct response and prediction

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

Thread title and op's distortion are nonsense.

Typical Far Left..
..selective editing..
..selective reading..
..distorting of facts..

Typical BS.

This is a sign of Victory. Bush would never agree to leave Iraq without Victory. Without the surge the US would be forced to stay longer b/c we would not have had enough troops to finish the missions.

Victory!!!!!

As long as we leave behind a stable democracy, I don't care what word you use to describe it. Semantics are irrelevent, what matters is that we knocked down a tyrannical dictator and replaced him with a democracy, score one for the good guys.

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What is it exactly that America is surrendering in Iraq? In fact, how can we surrender when President Codpiece declared "Mission Accomplished" 4 years ago?

I'll promise I'll read the hundreds and hundreds of responses I am certain to receive from Bush lovers, neo-cons, warmongers, suckers, dummies and fools who are jumping to show me the error of my ways.

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Last book read: "The Gate House" ~ NelsonDeMille
Now reading: "Nam-A-Rama" ~ Phillip Jennings

Democrats in 2004: We need to leave Iraq!
Republicans in 2004: We will leave if they ask us to
Democrats in 2005: We need to leave Iraq!
Republicans in 2005: We will leave if they ask us to
Democrats in 2006: We need to leave Iraq!
Republicans in 2006: We will leave if they ask us to
Democrats in 2007: We need to leave Iraq!
Republicans in 2007: We will leave if they ask us to
Democrats in 2008: We need to leave Iraq!
Republicans in 2008: We are negotiating with the Iraqi government as to when we will leave

The general idea for those who support the war is that pulling out before Iraq is ready would be like surrendering (similar to what happened at the end of Vietnam).
The general idea for those who do not support the war is that we have to pull out, consequences be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.

Now that the Iraq government is starting to get to the point where we can pull out, the Republicans are following through with what they've been saying for the entirety of the war and planning for when the US leaves. Thus the withdrawal of Iraq would no longer be viewed as a Vietnam-like 'surrender'.

And so, with the Republicans following through with what they said they would do, anti-war people feel the need to attack them for doing what they said they would do. Also, the anti-war people believe that the democrats were actually right all along when in fact it is the conditions on the ground that have made it so that the US can withdrawal.

Lets say there is a button that should be pressed under certain conditions. Person A is in charge of pressing the button. Person B shouts at person A every minute even though the conditions are not right. After 10 minutes the conditions become right and person A presses the button. Person B says "See I was right you should have pressed the button!"
Person B was not right, just repetitive and annoying.

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