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Old 08-24-2008, 05:24 PM
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Price of Gas when Clinton left office. How about the price of his lack of morals setting an example of a man abusing his position to take advantage of women including employees, committing adultery with impunity and having sex with other than his wife in the White House.
Ok and how did Pres. Clinton having sex in the WH affect your life personally?

Newsflash this country has ALWAYS lacked morals in one way or another.

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I suggest that the price that we all will pay for lowered morals will dwarf the current price of gas in that our impressionable youth who are aware of his example in the White House may have forever lowered the respect of the position of the President in the mind of many, will increase the sexual promiscuity of our young set by his example and sexual diseases will become even more rampant.
LOL, the majority of youth can hardly tell you who their state governors and reps are much less the Pres. BTW you should be setting the example for your children not the POTUS.

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The price of gas is not set by a President nor his/her policies. Look at Congressional action or lack of action that has more of an impact in that area.
Ok, the Republicans controlled the Congress from 1994 - 2006, so should we place the blame at their feet instead.
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Ok and how did Pres. Clinton having sex in the WH affect your life personally?

Newsflash this country has ALWAYS lacked morals in one way or another.

LOL, the majority of youth can hardly tell you who their state governors and reps are much less the Pres. BTW you should be setting the example for your children not the POTUS.

Ok, the Republicans controlled the Congress from 1994 - 2006, so should we place the blame at their feet instead.
During that time I worked in the Executive Branch, President Clinton was my boss. He made a fool of the Office of the Presidency, he let all of us employees down with his personal misuse of that Office. I hear from young guys that if it's good enough for a President, why shouldn't they follow suit. Besides why does BC's failings have to personally impact me if what he does is morally reprehensible?

Because there has always been (and always will be) a lack of morals does not condone BC's behavior. I see that we have taken another step down that slippery slope. You're ok with a President doing anything he wants while he/she is in that office?

The reason that our youth don't know who their representatives are is another sign of the failure of our public schools, it's sad, it's not something to LOL about. You're right though about many do not even know who the President is, true also of a lot of adults. I have and will continue to set a good example for my children and all children I come into contact with. How about you? If you're ok with the immorality of this world, I'd prefer you not set an example for my kids.

Actually, I was thinking of the years 1973 - 1993, 2007 and 2008, although I don't let the Republicans off the hook for the twelve years they led Congress.
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President Bush blaming high gas prices on Democrats is like blaming the citizens of New Orleans for Hurricana Katirna.

http://www.charter.net/news/read.php...ARSDCCL2_UNEWS

Now I could be wrong, but this guy and the Republican lead Congress sat on their azzez for 6 yrs and watched gas prices go through the roof, but now it is the Democrats fault that gas prices are soooo high.

Unbelievable.
Funny I blame the democrats too. With all their phony concern over the enviroment, ove the last 40 years they have stop us from drilling for oil off our oceans and within the 48 states and Alaska, stopped us from making more refineries, stopped us from mining coal deposits, and from making more nuclear power plants. I would say it is their fault for sure.
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During that time I worked in the Executive Branch, President Clinton was my boss. He made a fool of the Office of the Presidency, he let all of us employees down with his personal misuse of that Office.
So your pride was hurt?
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Old 08-25-2008, 04:44 AM
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During that time I worked in the Executive Branch, President Clinton was my boss. He made a fool of the Office of the Presidency, he let all of us employees down with his personal misuse of that Office.
Pres. Clinton didn't do anything any other Pres. hadn't already done.

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I hear from young guys that if it's good enough for a President, why shouldn't they follow suit.
Right, so since Pres. Clinton got him some on the side every young man in America thinks its ok. Newsflash: Married men have been getting some on the side since Adam and Eve (*)(*)(*)(*) near.

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Besides why does BC's failings have to personally impact me if what he does is morally reprehensible?
How morally reprehensible was the Pres. office for allowing slavery and Jim Crow segregation to exist for so many years?

See that is something that impacted people's lives directly. Pres. Clinton getting some trim in the Oval Office didn't effect my life or my family's life one (*)(*)(*)(*) bit.

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Because there has always been (and always will be) a lack of morals does not condone BC's behavior. I see that we have taken another step down that slippery slope. You're ok with a President doing anything he wants while he/she is in that office?
How morally reprehensible is the present admin. for sending or fighting men and women into a war that was not necessary.

Do you think that has impacted people's lives more than Pres. Clinton getting some trim on the side.

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The reason that our youth don't know who their representatives are is another sign of the failure of our public schools, it's sad, it's not something to LOL about.
Really, it wouldn't have anything to do with the parents I take it.

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You're right though about many do not even know who the President is, true also of a lot of adults. I have and will continue to set a good example for my children and all children I come into contact with. How about you? If you're ok with the immorality of this world, I'd prefer you not set an example for my kids.
It is not my job to set and example for your kids that is your job. My job is to raise my kids the right and the kids that I come in contact with. Please spare me the holler than thou speech this world has never been morally sound. The sad thing is you want to point out the immorality of Pres. Clinton. As I said above I believe the immorality of the present admin. and those in the past has had a greater impact on people's lives than what Pres. Clinton has done.

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Actually, I was thinking of the years 1973 - 1993, 2007 and 2008, although I don't let the Republicans off the hook for the twelve years they led Congress.
Yea, I am pretty sure you want to side step the years of 1994 -2007. Selective criticism I guess.
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Old 08-25-2008, 04:46 AM
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Funny I blame the democrats too. With all their phony concern over the enviroment, ove the last 40 years they have stop us from drilling for oil off our oceans and within the 48 states and Alaska, stopped us from making more refineries, stopped us from mining coal deposits, and from making more nuclear power plants. I would say it is their fault for sure.
I would say it is both parties fault. The Republicans talk a good game, but they have not done anything to speak of either. They had the Congress from 1994 -2007 and they have had the Presidency since 2000, so to try and say that they didn't get anything done is solely because of the Democrats is a joke.

Stop acting like Partisan Patti and call it for what it is, neither party has done much of anything to lower gas prices.
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President Bush blaming high gas prices on Democrats is like blaming the citizens of New Orleans for Hurricana Katirna.

http://www.charter.net/news/read.php...ARSDCCL2_UNEWS

Now I could be wrong, but this guy and the Republican lead Congress sat on their azzez for 6 yrs and watched gas prices go through the roof, but now it is the Democrats fault that gas prices are soooo high.

Unbelievable.
FYI, gas prices skyrocketed when Pelosi was named speaker and they have gone up far more under her than the Repub congress. Bush is on the right track when it comes to placing blame, but for reasons other than Pelosi.
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FYI, gas prices skyrocketed when Pelosi was named speaker and they have gone up far more under her than the Repub congress. Bush is on the right track when it comes to placing blame, but for reasons other than Pelosi.
What was the price of gas when Pres. Bush took office?

What was the price of gas when Nancy Pelosi became speaker?
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FYI, gas prices skyrocketed when Pelosi was named speaker and they have gone up far more under her than the Repub congress. Bush is on the right track when it comes to placing blame, but for reasons other than Pelosi.
from the graph in my previous post it is clear that the price of oil was skyrocketing long before democrats had control in congress.
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What was the price of gas when Pres. Bush took office?

What was the price of gas when Nancy Pelosi became speaker?
If you can blame Bush without reasoning I can blame Pelosi without it. Except my reasoning has numbers. Gas was $1.46/gallon when Bush was sworn in. It went to $2.11 when the Dem congress was sworn in (increase of 44%. Since then it has gone as high as $4.05 (just over 90%). As of today it's up 82% since the dems took over congress. In other words, the dem congress accomplished more in 18 months than the R's in 6 years.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petro...s_history.html
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Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

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