Now I'm just waiting for Niceguy to show up and clear up all these relatively ridiculous assumptions flying around about Sweden.

"stoic silence"

and the St. Pauli girl?

http://www.stpauligirl.com/main.php

Oh, wait, she's not swedish, she's Icelandic.

Catz

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I'll get nicer when you get smarter.

But with a few more specifics. I didn't concede anything you wrote. First, it's easy to have low crime rates when living under government oppression. Iraq had low rates of crime. So did Hitler's Germany. As does North Korea under Kim Jong Il. Congratulation...you have something in common with the above. It's also easy to control crime when the population of your entire country is about the size of the city of Boston.

It's also easy to not be the target of others when you help no one to begin with.

Better economy? Try again. Sweden had double digit unemployment rates as recently as the late 90's. And again, it's easier to manage a tiny country than it is a large one. Yet economically you have not.

Right, Sweden offers more freedom. Freedom to be jailed for speaking your opinion. Your lack of specifics speaks volumes in regards to these alleged "freedoms."

Sure, Sweden is like N-Korea, that's probably why it's always in the top 10 lists of best nations to live in. Yet N-Korea usually finishes last. So, double check your logic.

OK, then how comes Boston is still so filthy and full of crime?

Help???

Yeah, that's right. Unlike the US, Sweden has never helped crooks like Pinochet and Saddam. Shame on them.

Well, that's because of the different way they measure unemployment. They even count some housewife who is looking to work five hours a week as unemployed.

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They know... Saddam Hussein is no threat to the US. But at some point he might decide if he had a nuclear weapon to use it against Israel. Gen.W.Clark

It usually is. The UK is a part of Europe though, regardless of it's place in my attacks.

The same could be said for most of Europe...which is why I dont get why you people all seem to be so eagar to enact laws restricting freedom.

I would oppose this myself. A crime is a crime. Murder is bad regardless of your motivation.

I disagree. They restrict what I am allowed to say and what ideas I can express. That is not freedom.

Did they collaborate with the Nazis like Finland did?

Obviously you've never been there. It's a goregous city.

This is like the muslimah who told me she's better off in Syria because there's so much more rape in the US. Considering that there are 3 million people in Syria (roughly) and 260 million in the US, of course there's more.

The original poster is correct. The US is a huge country, so of course it's easy to take a shallow look at the numbers and say crime is out of control. However that just shows a basic lack of common sense.

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ummm, works for me no matter where she is from.

Replace races with the countries you mentioned and...

No, dear. Factual. Blacks do not have the same concept of free speech or of free religious expression as does the Whites.

You can see this is a racist comment? Then maybe how you can see how your xenophobic.

Yes, that WAS a accurate assessment wasn't it? Firstly have you any idea how many different nations in Europe there are? Many more free than U.S. has ever been. Many giving its citizens better living conditions than U.S. ever has given it's citizens. Secondly many do have the same concept but choose to instead protect it's people by infringing on freedom of speech.

Because France does represent the entire of Europe after all.

How? He was campaigning for equal rights not black supremacy.

No it isn't. I support the imprisonment of people who try to incite attacks on other people.

The point i'm making is that this law is enforced in the U.S. Currently whether you're in favor of it or not, the U.S. i supporting racism as much as Sweden is.

Yup, you said something like minorities should be protected from unfair practices but not unfair words. It's just a case of where you draw the line.

Frankly i sick of you being so anal about it.

No i'll openly admit to hating America. I'm am Xenophobic when it comes to America. Not it's people but the U.S. itself. Just like you are to Europe.

*sigh* Only people who incite hatred and by this i mean attempting to convince others that attacks on a minority would be acceptable. By all means hate gays but attempt to get any to anyone else to attack them. Just like i wouldn't try to convince anyone else to destroy America.


Stop mangling our shared language with your ill placed capital letters.

Who abandoned almost all socialist policies in a attempt to gain middle class and factory owners votes. You can't seriously tell me that Hitler's was a socialist or even of the left. Communism was his sworn enemy.


Of course they are. Like the laws to execute millions of Jews came from the right.

Did i not say that this law should changed to encompass everyone?

No, i wasn't. I called Xenophobic for your European bashing.

If it was changed a bit then yes. Fairness over freedom.

Supporting underage sex now aswelll?

Girl just go weak at the knees when you tell the difference between your and you're ay?

Oh and BTW i noticed how you didn't reply to the first section of my post.

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What's this i hear bed? Word has it you and Pam are sleeping together.

Great, thanks for the irrelevant info. Did I compare life in Sweden to NK? No. I said crime rates are low there too and that it's easy to have low crime when you live under oppresive governments like NK (or Singapore, Soviet Union, etc).

Obviously you haven't been in a few decades. Boston is very clean and has one of the lowest murder rates in the country. You may want to get an update.

You haven't helped anyone...well, other than yourselves. Oops I forgot, and Hitler. "Neutral" Sweden provide iron ore and miltary bases to Germany early on in the war. They were also home to stolen Jewish assets taken by the Nazis. Ever hear of the Wallenberg family? How about SEB bank? The SKF factory?

Same here, anyone who wants to work, but can't find it. Part time or full time.

Catz,
As for what I think of the Hate Crimes Act, I think it is a good idea. However, the examples shown in the beginning are IMO ridiculous and the Hate Crimes Act should not apply to them. Chances are there is much more to this 'story' than you, I, or anyone who is not currently living in Sweden and speaks Swedish (or as we elegantly refer to it in Finnish: 'language of ladders') know.

@Rebellion
You cannot seriously claim that the citizens of Sweden are being oppressed? Comparing Stockholm to Pyongyang?
And Sweden is somewhat larger than Boston, with 9 million inhabitants.
PS: There never were German military bases in Sweden during WWII, there was a military transit agreement however.

For all:
http://www.sweden.se/
Read it, and then return to this thread.