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Old 10-07-2004, 07:14 AM
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And Boston is not a gorgeous city. Sure, if one forgets the ghettos, the projects (or whatever they're called). But guess what, one can't just forget about them.
I doubt you've even stepped foot in Boston. If you have it's been 25 years. I live in Boston, they don't have projects here. I'll happily debate you about the city anytime. Now slither off to find a web site about Boston and try to learn something.
O give me a break. Boston is probably one of the best cities in the US, so for your standards it may be heaven on earth. But let me tell you, that it's no heaven on earth. It's full of crime and there are plenty of ghettos there. Sure, the ghettos are all kept safely hidden from the city center so visitors won't see them, but they are present. Same gos for NYC, Manhattan is great, but try some parts of Harlem where bullet dodging is a daily task.
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Default Are you for real?

Sure, Harlem USED to be dangerous, about 40 years ago. Now it's just a suburb of manhattan.

You want danger? You're not going to find it in HARLEM. Maybe in the Bronx, now, but Harlem has a relatively low crime rate.

And Boston, one of the best cities in the U.S.? ROFLOL. Puhleeze.

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Sure, Harlem USED to be dangerous, about 40 years ago. Now it's just a suburb of manhattan.

You want danger? You're not going to find it in HARLEM. Maybe in the Bronx, now, but Harlem has a relatively low crime rate.

And Boston, one of the best cities in the U.S.? ROFLOL. Puhleeze.

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O of course Catzenberg, how silly of me. Harlem is just like some kind of "fairytale kingdom" where all is sweet and peaceful. Are you kidding me? Besides, I don't even care that much. Even if Harlem was relatively safe and the Bronx was not, the same conclusion could be drawn.
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Yes.

And your point is?
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Default You don't seem to know what you're talking about.

That's my point.

Tell me, did you view Harlem from the deck of a Grayline tour bus?
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That's my point.

Tell me, did you view Harlem from the deck of a Grayline tour bus?
No.

And I still don't know what your point is. Does it even matter if I ever pesonally visited Harlem (and stepped out of the tour bus)?

In that case nobody has the right to speak about Palestine, Baghdad etc unless they have toured the area thoroughly.
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Default One can speak statistically about any of these places simply

by doing a data comparison. But you've spoken about Harlem and Boston as if you have personal knowledge, which you quite clearly don't. NOw, if you wish to substantiate your claims with supportive evidence, that's quite another story.

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by doing a data comparison. But you've spoken about Harlem and Boston as if you have personal knowledge,
which you quite clearly don't. NOw, if you wish to substantiate your claims with supportive evidence, that's quite another story.

Catz

So one may speak freely about Fallujah, Palestine, N-Korea and give ones opinion about it, however this does not apply to US cities??

Nice going Catzenbaum.
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No. "She" did NOT make a Xenophobic statement. Here is what she said;
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"European nations do not have the same concept of free speech or of free religious expression as does the U.S."


That is no more "Xenophobic" than saying that, "European Nations do not have the same style of Democratic Institutions as the U.S."!!
But she didn't say anything like that did she? She stated a opinion. A Xenophobic opinion i might add.

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It is a simple statement of fact without judging the point!
Your's is however Catz is not. Saying that Europe doesn't have the same concept of Free Speech can never be proved, furthermore she's generalizing the entire of Europe. Again.

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Since you have no clear understanding of the word
I gave a dictionary definition earlier. You seem to have not read this topic.

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Xenophobic - "A person unduly fearful or contemptuous of that which is foreign, especially of strangers or foreign peoples."

Now use that teenage intellect to point out where in Catz's statement she showed "undue fear or Contempt"????
She unduely says that Europe doesn't have the same concept of free speech that the U.S. has. To me she seems fearful of this hate law.

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YOU are the one who made the "Racist" statement.
........... Right. Listen closely. My statement was the same as Catz accept i'd replaced the Countries with races, yes? Now if you admit my statement was racist, and if the definition of racism is 'undue fear or contempt for another race', then can you see how Catz statement is Xenophobic?

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Only quoting one sentence, and that OUT OF CONTEXT, is a childish ploy! "Living in Europe" doesn't "Give" or take away "Knowledge" on THAT subject! The subject was the definition of a word that you are butchering! And you obviously have little to NO knowledge on that subject!
So you were saying i have no knowledge on what the the word racist means, because
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How is using "European Nations" as a category Racist???
I have explained time after time after time how i was calling Catz Xenophobic not racist. If you would just read the rest of the topic you might be able understand this.

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Ahhhh!!!!!!!!!! So now you ADMIT that your "knowledge" of the U.S. is "Zilch"!?!?!?!
Yep, this clearly stops me arguing about Swedish hate laws and Xenophobia toward Europe.

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No. BUT, there ARE government agencies that monitor the hiring practices of businesses to assure that they are not practicing DISCRIMINATION.
How exactly would they work this out?

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That is the result of continual efforts within the U.S. society to promote FAIRNESS!!!!!!!! Ever heard that word?
Didn't i use several times in my last ost. It was in one of the many parts you've missed out.

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But, although we dabbled in "Quota" systems in the schools and other public places in the PAST
Just like Sweden are dabbling and tweaking with this hate speech law now?

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we found that they generally fail to accomplish the original objective of FAIRNESS!
You shout this why? I already told you that.

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You are so filled with false information about the U.S. Government and our Society that it is no wonder you have come to such outrageous conclusions and opinions.
The U.S. have quotas? What a outrageous opinion!

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If you have any ethical sense at all, you will spend some time doing ACTUAL, substantive research on the subject!
Right did some. Turns out your lieing :

http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/hiring/affirmativeact.htm
http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/ofccp/aa.htm
http://oaac.co.la.ca.us/
http://www.adversity.net/fed_stats/fednews_USDOL.htm
http://www.post-gazette.com/nation/2...6affirmnp1.asp

Positive discrimination is alive and well in the U.S. (im firmly agianst by the way)

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If you would like to narrow your diatribe to ONLY that statement, a good debate just might be forthcoming. That statement has two or three cogent points that can actually be quantified and discussed.
Answer it then, don't sit telling me it me might be a good debate, get on with it.

Oh and this time answer all of my points and the ones you missed out :

'But control over your actions is acceptable? Why is that?'
'Fairness over freedom - how exactly can that be false?'
'No he didn't he drooped all plans to nationalize as soon as industrialists became alarmed. Hitler was of the right. And wasn't it Europeans who also defeated him?'

If you can't reply to these, just admit you lost on those points.
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