This thread is just another example that conservatives are unpatriotic and are trying to ruin our national manufacturing industry through their worship of the right-wing God 'the free market'.

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i actually remember a graph in which china, a nation which started many years after america with the construction of cars, makes safer and cleaner cars then the average american producer...

Good god, we are talking about china and america... that's just sad.

Chrysler? Dodge? sure, we can let them go.

Let's see an average foreign car/truck tow a trailer, how many miles will it last? Try the same with your average American car/truck, how long will it last? You should try this experiment, it could be fun, and could sell the import for a few hundred bucks after the tranny blows.


(Don't bring Chevy into this.)

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I'm not in favor of any type of economic bailout for the auto industry unless it is lined heavily with incentives that the manufacturer must comply with that will translate into the elimination of the SUV in favor of fuel efficient and enviormentally-friendly automobiles.

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Eh, nothing that a Toyota Tundra can't solve.

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"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."
- Winston Churchill

Enough cars that can handle the stress. I think that the average German car will outlast any american car... regardless of situation. (Italian cars though...)

Look at the Dakar... Mitsubishi has won with their Pajero since 2001. And atleast since 1979 there hasn't even been an american car that has one the Dakar.

If the US taxpayers invest in a private company to help it become profitable again and grow...then the US taxpayers should be treated as stock holders and continue to have a financial interest in the company...both its losses and profits.

If we are going to socialize or nationalize the losses, we have every right to ALSO socialize or nationalize the profits as well.

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can build a better world for people. Otherwise it's just a cage."
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The public wants SUVs and trucks, which is why people buy them. Then they complain about gas prices.

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American and foreign companies have comparable mpg in all their cars, there are no extreme differences. I have an 86 cutlass supreme, it averages 28-30 mpg with a little olds 307 engine (will be swapped for some muscle in the future). The car has 300,000 miles on it. If you know how an engine works, american cars are much better and more reliable than foreign ones. This is why SUV's are so popular, they still have the american v8's, you can't beat them for ease of work, power, reliability, cost, mileage, etc. all across the board.

GM is ahead of the curve compared to many other companies, a fully functional plug in will be available in 2010. It will also not look like a jelly bean.

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I almost bought a dash from a Pajero to put in a project, would never buy the car though. Although it is a healthy little 4x4, remember it is a sponsored event. I could take a prius, put enough money in it, and win a dirt race. The right bronco would easily take it, anytime, anywhere.

The problem with German cars I have seen is - engineering is great, but what happens when you need to Fix something? Special tools for everything, high price parts (even in europe), and you can't get to anything in the compartment. (although the american small cars were the same way until recently)

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This was a question of averages, which foreign companies could not touch.

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