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you need to think clearly about who to vote.

1. other countries around the world, CHINA, EUROPEAN COUNTRIES prefer obama.. why??? he''ll be easier to be taken advantage of, due to lack of experience, when it needs experience, hard fist for OIL, Trade, Tariffs, Resources,,

2. if you are OKAY Iran and North Korea to have nuclear bombs, vote for OBAMA, because Obama doesn't have the hard fist strength on foreign policy.

3. this election is basically Minorities (Obama) VS WHITE (McCain). And, these minorities are from countries that prefer Obama, <---correlates to "1"

I am not discriminating the minorities that just recently become American. I am just analyzing that they would prefer to see a "SOFT" US, other than a "STRONG, HARD" US.
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Old 09-16-2008, 03:26 PM
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Sheesh, you make Obama sound like soft spread butter...

After reading every tantalizing minute of what I suppose you would call a strong, hard,convincing argument, you've persuaded me that I should vote for McCain because he has hard fists, and I am white.

I am sure the Republican Party is proud to have you on their side!

P.S. I am assuming from what I've read in the news, that the reason Obama picked Biden as his VP was to make up for his lack of experience and a strong foreign policy. Please come up with something a little more intelligible if you plan on changing anyone's mind.
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we cannot afford to lose this election in the critical financial, critical political, critical international environment that we are in.

we need to vote for experience, vote for realiability, not charisma.
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Yes Obama is naive and will be taken advantage of.

Think about his comments regarding "fair trade". How do foreign markets respond to US tariffs? He wanted to withdraw from Iraq when the surge was clearly working, he thinks withdrawing US forces would have stabilized Iraq, and he wanted to bomb and invade Pakistan. He didn't realize that Russia had veto power in the UN, nor did any of his 300 advisors apparently.

Obama has no clue as to how the world works. His foreign policy philosophy seems to include whatever looks good on the teleprompter. An Obama presidency would involve countless foreign policy blunders.

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Yes Obama is naive and will be taken advantage of.

Think about his comments regarding "fair trade". How do foreign markets respond to US tariffs? He wanted to withdraw from Iraq when the surge was clearly working, he thinks withdrawing US forces would have stabilized Iraq, and he wanted to bomb and invade Pakistan. He didn't realize that Russia had veto power in the UN, nor did any of his 300 advisors apparently.

Obama has no clue as to how the world works. His foreign policy philosophy seems to include whatever looks good on the teleprompter. An Obama presidency would involve countless foreign policy blunders.
i agree. I am seriously so disappointed.....
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You rarely find an easy election. Obama is clearly the right choice.
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This is my voting face...

I'm going to list all the candidates. And why I don't like them, then list who I'll be voting for and why..

Borack Obama:
Ok, this guy is just a monster. He's pro-abortion, and I don't mean just your typical democrat. I mean he's voted for bills that even make dems cringe like leaving failed aborted babies to die in a sink or something. The guy has zero compassion, and wants you to believe he's looking out for you? Bull(*)(*)(*)(*)!

He wants to start a war with Pakistan. He's said "If they don't cooperate with us, we will innitiate force against them". Them's fighting words. And Pakistain is an ally! Obama apparently doesn't know his geography, or maybe he wants to turn the entire middle-east against us. Also, Pakistain has nukes, so pissing them off might not be a good idea.

Third, he's in favor of bailouts for banks and other big businesses. This was suppose to be change? Saving the butts of big companies on taxpayer dollars?

Fourth, he played around the issue of the draft. He keeps calling fourth more protectionsm with the rising stars of Russia and Iran.. but doesn't want to use the word "draft". If you elect him, don't be surprised if military service becomes compulsory, but the word "draft" is never used...

And lastly, he's been quoted for saying that he'd like to put a computer chip in every magizine, that way, whenever a round is shot on a gun, the government would know about it. That's not sensible politics. That's fascism!



John McCain:
John McCain doesn't even try to be a republican. He's even using the word "maverick" as though it were a good thing. Well if you're such a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing maverick then why would I vote for you?! I could easily vote democrat if I was so opposed to the republican party.. Idiot.. His only saving grace is Sara Palin. Which is sad that we need some little hick town governor to be the voice of reason in politics..


Cynthia McKinny:
The green party candidate. Apparently they can find time to save spotted owls, but not unborn babies.. The green party disgusts me in all the same ways the democratic party does. I see no significant difference. I also think if they cared so (*)(*)(*)(*) much about the working class, that they'd be in favor of drilling for oil. This creates jobs..


Bob Barr:
Another charaltan. Bob Barr has always been a neoconservative, and he still is. Who's cock did this guy have to suck inorder to become the libertarian candidate?! He's voted in favor of the patriot act, and (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)foots around reforming it.. He's voted in favor of the Iraq war, and my central issue: Abortion. He claims to be prolife, but when he was younger he drove his girlfriend to an abortion clinic. If I can't trust him to be prolife in his private life, how can I trust him to be prolife in his political one?


Chuck Baldwin:
Ah, the constitution party. When you think "The Christian-Right" and "dumb rednecks", this is who you're really thinking of. Not the republicans.. None of his policies checkout, he believes in "state rights", I don't want to go back to a confederacy, do you?

And he would push those individual states to bring back prohibition, illegalize gambling, etc. That's nuts... I respect the guy for sticking to his idea of how the country should run, and is working within his code of ethics and does not want government to overstep it's bounds. But the guy is just a bit too crazy for my liking, and he doesn't really have a shot at presidency anyway. I don't care if he's getting backed by Ron Paul. The only thing I like about Chuck Baldwin is his constitutional ammendment to recognize fetuses as human beings. This, by default, would overturn Roe vs Wade, and pressure individual states to further restrict with the ultimate intent of banning abortions. However, nothing short of a federal "no you can't abort" is going to garantee it. Sorry Chuck, you might keep your alignment in Dungeons&Dragons. But in the real world I'm willing to overstep the constitution to save the life of the unborn..


Ralph Nader:
Are we really at that point where Ralph Nader is making the most sense out of all the candidates? That's just sad.. Ralph Nader has authentic immigration policies, (even though I don't agree with them) he's not interested in bailouts for the incompetent bankers, he's even supported pseudo-voucher programs! (Choice within public schools..) I don't know why he was ever green to begin with. He'd fit in perfectly (well, besides his abortion position) in my "liberal nationalist" political philosophy.. Which is like a more moderate form of libertarianism.. That's the only reason I'm not voting for Nader, is his abortion position..



Who I'm Voting For:
I'm voting for John McCain, not for McCain. But for Sarah Palin. Hoping that he holds her values when it comes to the unborn. McCain lucked out by picking such a prolife loyalist as his vice presidential nominee, or he would've lost my vote to Nader pr Chuck Baldwin.


I'm sure he did that on purpose...

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you need to think clearly about who to vote.

1. other countries around the world, CHINA, EUROPEAN COUNTRIES prefer obama.. why??? he''ll be easier to be taken advantage of, due to lack of experience, when it needs experience, hard fist for OIL, Trade, Tariffs, Resources,,

2. if you are OKAY Iran and North Korea to have nuclear bombs, vote for OBAMA, because Obama doesn't have the hard fist strength on foreign policy.

3. this election is basically Minorities (Obama) VS WHITE (McCain). And, these minorities are from countries that prefer Obama, <---correlates to "1"

I am not discriminating the minorities that just recently become American. I am just analyzing that they would prefer to see a "SOFT" US, other than a "STRONG, HARD" US.
Why dont we just stay out of other countries business? There is no evidence to this date Iran is intending to make nukes for hostile purposes. So let just mind our own go(*)(*)(*)(*) business and clean up the mess in America! I swear America is like a bully with too much power and PROBLEMS and everyone is scared of what he's going to do. We have our heads up our asses and its making me sick
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you need to think clearly about who to vote.

1. other countries around the world, CHINA, EUROPEAN COUNTRIES prefer obama.. why??? he''ll be easier to be taken advantage of, due to lack of experience, when it needs experience, hard fist for OIL, Trade, Tariffs, Resources,,
you are very negative about europe. you think your regular average europeans think like that? i'm not talking about those in government.

When you form opinions about overseas leaders in europe do you think favorably those that would pamper the USA the most? Favour those who lack experience so the USA may take advantage of that country?
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Who I'm Voting For:
I'm voting for John McCain, not for McCain. But for Sarah Palin. Hoping that he holds her values when it comes to the unborn. McCain lucked out by picking such a prolife loyalist as his vice presidential nominee, or he would've lost my vote to Nader pr Chuck Baldwin.
isn't abortion a dead issue? what do you expect the feds to do about it?
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