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Old 10-11-2004, 11:02 AM
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And you call it campaigning against Howard? She gave an interview, she answered a question, she expressed her honest opinion (BTW undeniable), if it happened to coincide with Howard's opponent's opinion you people claim that she was campaigning against Howard. Come on, that's as dishonest as it gets.
Hmm... It was probably also just a coincidence that she happened to be in Australia, a coincidence that it was a couple weeks before the election, a coincidence that she was granted an interview, and a coincidence that the paper was looking to write a piece on foreign policy from the perspective of an American drama teacher at the time.
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Old 10-11-2004, 11:15 AM
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And you call it campaigning against Howard? She gave an interview, she answered a question, she expressed her honest opinion (BTW undeniable), if it happened to coincide with Howard's opponent's opinion you people claim that she was campaigning against Howard. Come on, that's as dishonest as it gets.
Hmm... It was probably also just a coincidence that she happened to be in Australia, a coincidence that it was a couple weeks before the election, a coincidence that she was granted an interview, and a coincidence that the paper was looking to write a piece on foreign policy from the perspective of an American drama teacher at the time.
You should have read the article you posted. Here is what it says:

"Ms Kerry, who taught school in Indonesia for 15 years until 2000, is heading a campaign called Americans Overseas for Kerry which aims to secure the votes of Americans abroad -- including the more than 100,000 living in Australia."

Frankly it's preposterous to even suggest that she was involved in internal Australian politics. It would be extremely unethical and besides it makes absolutely no political sense, it does not increase or decrease Kerry's prospects to get elected and if Kerry is elected he does not want our allies (whatever insignificant number we have) to withdraw from Iraq...before we do.
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Frankly it's preposterous to even suggest that she was involved in internal Australian politics. It would be extremely unethical and besides it makes absolutely no political sense, it does not increase or decrease Kerry's prospects to get elected
Substitute US for Australia and truebrit for Kerry's daughter...
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I guess this is proof of the international community not supporting our Beach Head in the Middle East?
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Second - Australia contributed 850 troops in non-combat roles. For a country like Australia it's a ridiculously small, token participation in the coalition. They barely had any casualties, it costs them pennies. It's not a campaign issue for them..
Since Australia's total population is only in the neighborhood of 20-million, wouldn't you agree that a force of 850-900 is, to them, more than token participation? I would think that the average Australian would be offended by your remark.
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Since Australia's total population is only in the neighborhood of 20-million, wouldn't you agree that a force of 850-900 is, to them, more than token participation?
The UK population is 3 times bigger than the population of Australia, yet the Brits have 10 times more COMBAT troops in Iraq.

The US population is 15 times bigger, yet we have almost 200 times more COMBAT troops in Iraq.

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I would think that the average Australian would be offended by your remark.
Who cares what you think, you can't even count. You better start thinking what the rest of the world thinks about America and the Iraq war, not what Australians think about my comment (which btw was not meant as an insult).
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Who cares what you think, you can't even count. You better start thinking what the rest of the world thinks about America and the Iraq war, not what Australians think about my comment (which btw was not meant as an insult).
Who, exactly, do you mean, in referring to the "...rest of the world..."? Germany? France? That useless, impotent group known as the U.N.? Germany and France were angry at us because their secret dealings with Saddam Hussein were squashed, along with him and his regime. I couldn't give two s---s what they think of us. We have started a long, difficult process whereby all the Middle East will be electing their governments through democratic process. Afghanistan is taking its first baby-steps, Iraq will be next, and Saudi Arabia is already leaning that way, as their monarchy gradually loses its dictatorial power. I know this is getting off-topic, but sorry, I couldn't let this slide.
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Nope not France or Germany...

Ken is refering to the grand Naval Forces of Luxembourg, the Ethiopian calvary(infantry now, after another famine..), the Peruvian Special Forces, and the Kampuchian police forces for Humanity!

We NEED those guys on board!
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Who cares what you think, you can't even count. You better start thinking what the rest of the world thinks about America and the Iraq war, not what Australians think about my comment (which btw was not meant as an insult).
Apparently, the Australians support their participation in this war, by a majority of the vote, since the Iraq War was a crucial issue in their elections. As long as we have allies like the Aussies, who never back away from a fight and aren't prone to being bought off by tyrants like the French and Germans are, I'm not so worried about what "old Europe" thinks of us.

Rather, I think they ought to be (*)(*)(*)(*) concerned about what WE think of THEM.

Aren't they participants in the International Criminal Court? Couldn't they be prosecuted, by the Iraqis, for supporting criminal activity?

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Well, I am sorry the warmonger Howard has saved his chair for this time. I still think that the Irak thing damaged him but not enough given his success on economy and other political issues. After all, he was altready on his third term, and won the fourth.I guess he isn't your average leader, but someone that the Australians like and will remember for a long time. Irak wasn't enough to torpedo him, especially since the Australian army has had very few casualties in Irak.

Now it is the turn of Poland and Italy... Poland's president, Miller, is altready weakened by internal strife due to the social side effects of entering European Union. And Italy has had about 20 dead soldiers, a couple of troubling kidnappings, an executed hostage and more...

Back to the australians: hope the United States retreat from Irak.
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