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Old 09-22-2008, 07:49 AM
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Default Socialized Banking=Good; Socialized Medicine=Bad?

18,000 people die each year from lack of healthcare (http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...nce-deaths.htm), but we can jump in and drop a $700 Billion Prozac capsule into Wallstreet's coffee maker? I'm sorry, but I put lives before investments, but if you can prove that this recession is killing people, i may change my mind. What cha think.

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I am opposed to both and neither should be the responsibility of the American taxpayer.
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The rich have made money via socialized banking and their stock in pharmaceutical and managed health care firms will lose if medical care is socialized. This is the entire basis of the GOP stand on these issues IMO, YMMV.
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I am opposed to both and neither should be the responsibility of the American taxpayer.
I couldnt agree more and I would also like to add:

what recession?
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18,000 people die each year from lack of healthcare (http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...nce-deaths.htm), but we can jump in and drop a $700 Billion Prozac capsule into Wallstreet's coffee maker? I'm sorry, but I put lives before investments, but if you can prove that this recession is killing people, i may change my mind. What cha think.

BTW In the spirit of full disclosure, I am a Social democrat, who envies the Welfare states of Europe. Limbaugh listeners, Load your cannons!
Let me tell you something.

My fiance just had open heart surgery for the 4th time. She is 25. The last procedure she had has a 2% mortality rate. 10 years ago it would have been 70%.

All of the medical advances responsible for her being here, were made in the US. The rest of the world is more or less dependent on the US for medical advances.

If we had socialized health care, first of all, there would be a shortage of doctors. Second, those advances would not have happened.

If we had had socialized health care for the last 30 years, she would not be here right now.

If you support socialized health care, to me you are someone who would rather her be dead.

Pay for your own (*)(*)(*)(*) health care, my fiance deserves life.

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Let me tell you something.

My fiance just had open heart surgery for the 4th time. She is 25. The last procedure she had has a 2% mortality rate. 10 years ago it would have been 70%.

All of the medical advances responsible for her being here, were made in the US. The rest of the world is more or less dependent on the US for medical advances.

If we had socialized health care, first of all, there would be a shortage of doctors. Second, those advances would not have happened.

If we had had socialized health care for the last 30 years, she would not be here right now.

If you support socialized health care, to me you are someone who would rather her be dead.

Pay for your own (*)(*)(*)(*) health care, my fiance deserves life.
And on the flip side, you are someone who would rather people who can't afford the health care she received be dead.

Hey look, two sides to the issue.
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I couldnt agree more and I would also like to add:

what recession?
Yeah! If we have $700 billion to give to the failing banking/insurance industry, how can we be in a recession?

Oh, wait....
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I'm not very good at math, but with 300 million people in the USA, if the government gave everyone 1 million dollars, it would be cheaper than giving the banks 700 billion.

Wouldn't it?

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