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Old 09-25-2008, 07:26 PM
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To suspend a campaign less than 40 days from an election is frankly a little too close to what can be called insanity. With the whole Republican Party bewildered and millions of dollars in contributions at stake McCain rolls the dice.

Anyone smelling the putrid stench of a big dirty rat?

Perhaps insanity is too strong a word; however madness which is closely related to insanity may be a better description. It’s just completely crazy to suspend a campaign this close to a general election without an alternate plan. The republican candidate understands his hero status has been greatly tarnished for chickening out of a much needed debate.

Now seeking to become a hero of the economy super McCain plays Mr. Fix-it and rescues Wall Street. He returns to the campaign that was never really suspended as champion of the little guy for helping the fat cats receive a 700 billion dollar free lunch at taxpayer expense.

This whole scenario implies something extremely smelly about the so-called banking dilemma. Without inside information about the recovery of the banking system it’s crazy to risk his whole campaign on a gamble. The 700 billion plot must be another financial scheme similar to the corruption born out of the whole “Keating 5” play book updated, modified and enlarged for 2008.

Our Anti-American, Anti-journalism, communist news media plays a major role in the vast pyramid scheme our financial system has become since the creation of the bogus Federal Reserve system. The news media's misguided focus has been on experience, However "integrity" is where the focus should be. Look at all the experience of Cheney, however he is as corrupt as they come.
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I agree with most of your post but I think the media is trying to fathom what's going on here, especially what role McCain is playing since his grandstand move.
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I agree with most of your post but I think the media is trying to fathom what's going on here, especially what role McCain is playing since his grandstand move.
And especially since McCain admits he has li'l knowledge about economics, he should stay outta the way so the real leaders can get their work done.
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It's political posturing and according to many sources it didn't really wash very well with a lot of people.
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At a time that is some imperative to the American people, why wont anyone just ask him to leave, he has nearly distroyed all the work that parties on both sides have accomplished. Looks like Obama calls it! Presidential politics in this time is absolutely unnecessary.
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I sure see a lot of conspiracy theories here! I love how everyone speaks as if they "know" McCain, and they can read his mind!

McCain is the one who recently asked for more debates, as well as 10 town hall meetings across the nation in which the Obama camp did not agree--McCain camp was even willing to pay for all transporation costs for Obama so they couldn't use the excuse about how they have the rest of his campaign money "budgeted". Nobody was on here saying that Obama was scared.

McCain has proven not to be afraid of anything, especially a debate. The person talking about McCain admitting to "knowing little" about the economy has fallen victim to the mainstream media cut and paste talking points. McCain has more than enough experience serving on the senate during 4 different presidencies to "know" the economy. If you listen to his entire response for which that media talking point was taken, you'll better understand what he was saying.

His whole campaign has been country first. What would people be saying about him if he didn't seem concerned enough to go to Washington? If Obama had a slogan of "country first" instead of "change we need", and HE put a hold on his campaign to go to Washington, you would be hailing him a hero right now! The fact is, he wasn't even going to go until Bush called him personally and asked him to come. So he goes, and he holds TV interviews after the meeting (which turned into a campaign speach) and everyone talks about how wonderful he is!

McCain did put his campaign on hold... his speach at the Clinton Foundation was not part of his campaign. He asked the networks to drop his TV ads for three days, and many of them did. There were a few that continued to run them. He refused interviews, both on and off camera, meanwhile Obama takes every chance he can get to be in front of a camera! And what comes of it? Obama is the hero, and McCain is the scared puppy dog with his tail tucked between his legs? McCain is acting the way a senator SHOULD act! He is living up to his word, and yes... he doesn 't want to see the plan go the way it was proposed! Most conservatives don't, so it's a good thing he's throwing a wrench in it! People are always looking for examples of when McCain stands up against Bush... well, here you go!

I can't believe how many people are blind to the double standards of politics, especially in the media!
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I sure see a lot of conspiracy theories here! I love how everyone speaks as if they "know" McCain, and they can read his mind!

McCain is the one who recently asked for more debates, as well as 10 town hall meetings across the nation in which the Obama camp did not agree--McCain camp was even willing to pay for all transporation costs for Obama so they couldn't use the excuse about how they have the rest of his campaign money "budgeted". Nobody was on here saying that Obama was scared.

McCain has proven not to be afraid of anything, especially a debate. The person talking about McCain admitting to "knowing little" about the economy has fallen victim to the mainstream media cut and paste talking points. McCain has more than enough experience serving on the senate during 4 different presidencies to "know" the economy. If you listen to his entire response for which that media talking point was taken, you'll better understand what he was saying.

His whole campaign has been country first. What would people be saying about him if he didn't seem concerned enough to go to Washington? If Obama had a slogan of "country first" instead of "change we need", and HE put a hold on his campaign to go to Washington, you would be hailing him a hero right now! The fact is, he wasn't even going to go until Bush called him personally and asked him to come. So he goes, and he holds TV interviews after the meeting (which turned into a campaign speach) and everyone talks about how wonderful he is!

McCain did put his campaign on hold... his speach at the Clinton Foundation was not part of his campaign. He asked the networks to drop his TV ads for three days, and many of them did. There were a few that continued to run them. He refused interviews, both on and off camera, meanwhile Obama takes every chance he can get to be in front of a camera! And what comes of it? Obama is the hero, and McCain is the scared puppy dog with his tail tucked between his legs? McCain is acting the way a senator SHOULD act! He is living up to his word, and yes... he doesn 't want to see the plan go the way it was proposed! Most conservatives don't, so it's a good thing he's throwing a wrench in it! People are always looking for examples of when McCain stands up against Bush... well, here you go!

I can't believe how many people are blind to the double standards of politics, especially in the media!
Although you bring up some good points , the folly here is there was a ground work put down. The House republicans didn't try and work out their concerns within the frame work which was laid down , they showed up with their own plan and gave very little time for discussion. Barak Obama actually liked one of the first proposals that Republican leader Bohner set forth , but would not work across party line (How lovely) to discuss it or see how that would meld into what had already been laid out and preliminarily agreed on. Now don't take my word for it. The republican contingent sent one of their guys out in front of the cameras to say "We have a basic deal worked out "!
John McCain hasn't weighed in on these discussion. John McCain is waiting to see what comes out of this and he will then run with the banner in front of the cameras ; no doubt ripping a Democratic congress and somehow tying Barak into his ill-conceived political stunt at the peril of the people of the united states. You may be alarmed that many Democrat actually agree with some of the points that the Republican proposal have in it , but that's where the politics need to end! Its time to take the good out of their proposal and merge them with the points that the democrats want added to the overall bill and then both parties examine the bill and then decide how to have good oversight on how the monies are dispersed, at what increments, and ultimately how much more should be doled out ; because 700 billion is not going to do it according to all parties involved. Stop the Political positioning and Grand standing and work for America!
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I sure see a lot of conspiracy theories here! I love how everyone speaks as if they "know" McCain, and they can read his mind!

McCain is the one who recently asked for more debates, as well as 10 town hall meetings across the nation in which the Obama camp did not agree--McCain camp was even willing to pay for all transporation costs for Obama so they couldn't use the excuse about how they have the rest of his campaign money "budgeted". Nobody was on here saying that Obama was scared.

McCain has proven not to be afraid of anything, especially a debate. The person talking about McCain admitting to "knowing little" about the economy has fallen victim to the mainstream media cut and paste talking points. McCain has more than enough experience serving on the senate during 4 different presidencies to "know" the economy. If you listen to his entire response for which that media talking point was taken, you'll better understand what he was saying.

His whole campaign has been country first. What would people be saying about him if he didn't seem concerned enough to go to Washington? If Obama had a slogan of "country first" instead of "change we need", and HE put a hold on his campaign to go to Washington, you would be hailing him a hero right now! The fact is, he wasn't even going to go until Bush called him personally and asked him to come. So he goes, and he holds TV interviews after the meeting (which turned into a campaign speach) and everyone talks about how wonderful he is!

McCain did put his campaign on hold... his speach at the Clinton Foundation was not part of his campaign. He asked the networks to drop his TV ads for three days, and many of them did. There were a few that continued to run them. He refused interviews, both on and off camera, meanwhile Obama takes every chance he can get to be in front of a camera! And what comes of it? Obama is the hero, and McCain is the scared puppy dog with his tail tucked between his legs? McCain is acting the way a senator SHOULD act! He is living up to his word, and yes... he doesn 't want to see the plan go the way it was proposed! Most conservatives don't, so it's a good thing he's throwing a wrench in it! People are always looking for examples of when McCain stands up against Bush... well, here you go!

I can't believe how many people are blind to the double standards of politics, especially in the media!
You speak of a double standard, well take a moment to consider the type of enormous media circus that would have taken place if the Democratic candidate for president would have announced the suspension of his campaign less than 40 days from a General Election.

This stunt McCain pulled off this close to a major election was of very poor judgement, and one can be fairly certain many in his own party are wondering about his mental stability. The whole maverick characterization correctly bestowed upon McCain is a serious impediment that will not go away.

You imply that you know McCain, but the reality is a maverick is not the type of person anyone really knows, trusts, or can feel comfortable with. The fact is at any given time "know-one knows what this guy is going to do".

This is a extremely dangerous trait in terms of the power that comes from a presidency. What else could be the case other than a condition of anxiety and distrust, not only for this nation, but other nations as well. You can forget about this guy having any type of diplomatic skills, we can forget about any cooperation among nations, and a more ominous consideration is the fact McCain's whole make-up is more conducive to the generation of fear and despotism.
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Did anyone else notice that Obama's stance on Osama Bin Laden was that he wanted him dead and then late in the debate McCain called OBL a freedom fighter?
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Did anyone else notice that Obama's stance on Osama Bin Laden was that he wanted him dead and then late in the debate McCain called OBL a freedom fighter?
Oh please does anyone believe any tough talk coming from Obama at this point? He'd sit on his hands just like any lefty politician would do. He's sim;ply trying to win votes.


The only way to know how either John or Barack would be as President is to examine their careers, what they've said, what they've done, and how they've voted, as well as what their life experience is. BASed on this John McCain blows Obama out of the water on any level.
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