http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...International/

I sincerely hope this is an isolated incident. But this is not a good sign.

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Let those who don't want to fight come come. Without desire and enthusiasm, we can't win.
Here we go! Vietnam II; hell no, we won't go, the flight to canada. We've seen it all before. Can we make a law stopping Presidents from starting wars on their own? This is rediculous to force kids into lethal situations for no reason. How is this legal? How is it that people who refuse to get killed are punished?

I'd like to see more info about this but I am sure there is a major Leadership and Communication breakdown here. I suspect someone had been flubbing the unit "Capability/Readiness" information to make themselves look good (not uncommon). Then Surprise!!! You're tasked with a mission you can't support.......

Not the first time a mutiny has occurred.

Anyone familiar with Officer "Friendly Fire" related deaths from Vietnam (or from other Wars)?

Edit: LOL Hunter take a Chill Pill. This situation and those similar to it are not that complicated. If your troops are well Equipped, well Trained, and given good Leadership whatever job they are tasked with gets done.

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The Science of Brute Force......

Every person in the military is there of there own free will. They are all volunteers, none of them were forced to join. We do not have a draft, and will not if Bush is re-elected. If Kerry is elected then we may have one. Remember the Dems are the ones who started the recent draft bill that was unanimously denied. You also need to quit praying on people's emotions. They are not kids. They are not babies. While some of them may not be grown men, they are all old enough to drive, vote, go to jail and make their own decisions. Which they have done. And I must remind you that president Bush did not just go to war all by himslef. Kerry and most other Congreess/Senaters voted to do so as well.

It IS an isolated incident. Does it excite you thinking it may be widespread?
Are you happy about it?

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I think its good that some soldiers have some common sense. And not always obey orders like mindless lemmings.

Did i miss something??

jailtime

No, but thanks for implying that anyone who brings up bad news must be reveling in it. The "no questions" Bush administration really appreciates attitudes like that.

Despite all the happy talk about what's going on in Iraq, you have 19 soldiers who mutinied rather than do something as mundane as drive a truck from one town to another. Their complaint was that the mission was too dangerous, especially given the horrid state of their vehicles and other equipment.

These aren't shirkers; the Pentagon notes that the unit had served with honor for months. To my mind, this speaks volumes about how unsafe Iraq is, how inadequate is our force on the ground, and how inadequate is the support that force is receiving.

Does that make me happy? Absolutely not. I'm ex-military; it makes me FURIOUS.

These soldiers must be disciplined; there's no choice in that matter. But you can't just sweep the incident under the carpet.

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good point, they may have had a point...which needs addressed, but at same time there needs to be punishment to keep order in the army. look down the years, people have done basically suicidal orders, it's unfortenate but thats why you get paid.