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Old 11-01-2004, 09:40 AM
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Default Strawman.

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By all means, I'm sure that UBL hates Bush and wants to see him toppled. He wants easier game in that office, someone who will let him accomplish his goals without resisting.

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Can you find me ONE link where John Kerry is quoted as saying he will not resist terrorism? Just one.
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Strawman.
I'll take that as a "no".
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Default No, take it as irrelevant to the discussion....

As I haven't made that claim, and thus don't need to defend it (strawman).

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Old 11-01-2004, 10:27 AM
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Default Irrelevance everywhere

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I'm sure he also wants the U.S. to blow itself up after apologizing for the war on terror and handing over all of its resources directly to him, but those have the same chance of happening as him getting what you suggest.
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Default I'm talking about OBL's perceptions here...

And, what I've suggested is quite clearly his perception. It's Spain all over again.

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And, what I've suggested is quite clearly his perception. It's Spain all over again.

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I'm getting confused about what you think is his PERCEPTION vs what you claim he WANTS. All you've talked about is what you're "sure" he wants. "Perception" is one's assessment of things as they are, as opposed to what one wishes.

(BTW unless we're attacked today or tomorrow, I don't think it's Spain.)
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Default Perception/wants

What UBL wants: By all means, I'm sure that UBL hates Bush and wants to see him toppled. He wants easier game in that office, someone who will let him accomplish his goals without resisting.

What he perceives: Kerry is the person who will let him accomplish his goals in the middle east without resisting them.

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What UBL wants: By all means, I'm sure that UBL hates Bush and wants to see him toppled. He wants easier game in that office, someone who will let him accomplish his goals without resisting.
Reasonable assumptions. But there is no evidence that he thinks either candidate would "let him accomplish his goals without resisting", nor is there any evidence that either candidate would in fact do that.

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What he perceives: Kerry is the person who will let him accomplish his goals in the middle east without resisting them.

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He has not said that, nor does UBL have any reason to believe that.
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But there is no evidence that he thinks either candidate would "let him accomplish his goals without resisting",
Except that he's politicking for Kerry.

As for whether there is any ground to the idea that Kerry would let terrorists walk all over us, apparently, Bin Laden thinks there is some basis for this idea.

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Default WHERE DOES HE SAY THAT?

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But there is no evidence that he thinks either candidate would "let him accomplish his goals without resisting",
Except that he's politicking for Kerry.

As for whether there is any ground to the idea that Kerry would let terrorists walk all over us, apparently, Bin Laden thinks there is some basis for this idea.

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Default OBL is still under that rock...

...and as long as Bush is our prez he will stay there until we catch him. That's all you need to know.

His threats don't mean anything as long as bush is our Prez.

However,

.....a vote for Kerry is a vote for terrorists.

Like I say, if the corrupt UN, OBL & his terrorist thugs, & the democrats want Bush out then I guess he's doing a GREAT job!

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