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Default The Senate Vs. the UN

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'The extent of the corruption is staggering,'' Sen. Norm Coleman told me. He is a freshman Republican from Minnesota completing his second year in Washington, and he was talking about the United Nations and its pious secretary-general, Kofi Annan. Coleman's comments are not the mere musings of an insignificant rookie senator, but the considered judgment of a committee chairman whose careful investigation reached the hearing stage today.

Coleman said this week's hearings will show that ''the scope of the ripoff'' at the U.N. is substantially more than the widely reported $10 billion to $11 billion in graft. But more than money is involved. These hearings also should expose the arrogance of the secretary-general and his bureaucracy. At the same time that he has refused to honor the Senate committee's request for documents, Annan has inveighed against the Fallujah offensive sanctioned by the new Iraqi government while ignoring the terrorism of insurgents. This is an unprecedented showdown between a branch of the U.S. government and the U.N.

The scandal is not complicated. Money from Iraqi oil sales permitted by the Saddam Hussein regime under U.N. auspices, supposedly to provide food for Iraqis, was siphoned off to middlemen. Billions intended to purchase food wound up in Saddam's hands for the purpose of buying conventional weapons. The complicity of U.N. member states France and Russia is pointed to by the Senate investigation. The web of corruption deepened when it was revealed that Annan's son, Kojo, was on the payroll of a contractor in the oil-for-food program.

...Coleman has been joined in rare bipartisan cooperation by the subcommittee's fiercely liberal ranking Democrat, Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan. Coleman sent Levin a draft of a tough letter to Annan, and Levin signed it. The bipartisan letter demanded access to U.N. internal audits and key U.N. personnel. It also accused the Volcker committee of ''affirmatively preventing the subcommittee'' from investigating the scandal. A major point of dispute is the U.N.'s flat refusal to permit Lloyd's Register, hired by the U.N. to inspect Iraq's oil-for-food transactions, to provide any documents to the Senate.

The reaction by the U.N. bureaucracy has been an intransigent defense of its stone wall. Edward Mortimer, Annan's director of communications, publicly sneered at the Coleman-Levin letter as ''very awkward and troubling.'' Privately, Annan's aides told reporters that they were not about to hand over confidential documents to the Russian Duma and every other parliamentary body in the world.

But the U.S. Senate is not the Russian Duma. These are not just a few right-wing voices in the wilderness who are confronting Kofi Annan. ''In Coleman has been joined in rare bipartisan cooperation by the subcommittee's fiercely liberal ranking Democrat, Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan. Coleman sent Levin a draft of a tough letter to Annan, and Levin signed it. The bipartisan letter demanded access to U.N. internal audits and key U.N. personnel. It also accused the Volcker committee of ''affirmatively preventing the subcommittee'' from investigating the scandal. A major point of dispute is the U.N.'s flat refusal to permit Lloyd's Register, hired by the U.N. to inspect Iraq's oil-for-food transactions, to provide any documents to the Senate.

The reaction by the U.N. bureaucracy has been an intransigent defense of its stone wall. Edward Mortimer, Annan's director of communications, publicly sneered at the Coleman-Levin letter as ''very awkward and troubling.'' Privately, Annan's aides told reporters that they were not about to hand over confidential documents to the Russian Duma and every other parliamentary body in the world.

But the U.S. Senate is not the Russian Duma. These are not just a few right-wing voices in the wilderness who are confronting Kofi Annan. ''In seeing what is happening at the U.N.,'' Coleman told me, ''I am more troubled today than ever. I see a sinkhole of corruption.'' The United Nations and its secretary-general are in a world of trouble.
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Why did Kofi Annon release documents critical of U.S. efforts in Iraq (the Torture/Terrorism controversy) RIGHT NOW? Because he's on the hot seat, and he's attempting to shift the spotlight off himself, and onto someone else.

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Old 11-15-2004, 11:00 AM
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Its about time that the UN's conspiracies are opened up. Their rule is to keep everything a cover-up and only in the UN.
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and once we clean up the UN, maybe we can tackle cronyism and corruption on the home front
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Isn't there some rich Texas oilman also involved in this thing? Does anyone have info on that?
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Isn't there some rich Texas oilman also involved in this thing? Does anyone have info on that?
I don't think the US is completely blameless in this, otherwise we would be a bit more pro-active in letting it surface. I'm a bit surprised that the Bush administration hasn't really said much about this.
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Default Blaming the U.S. for Failure of the UN

I watched the last part of the C-Span coverage of this hearing today. And typical of Democrats.....Dem Senator Carl Levin.......tried hard to look for ways in which it is the United States' fault. Or at least partly. He said that we "acquiesced" on some of what was going on. And he said it was done during BOTH administrations. Typical Democrat; blame the United States.
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..I have no idea what context Carl Levin was using for his statements but I do not think he would be "blaming" the US . I am certain the Clinton and Bush Sr govts probably "looked away" while certain things occured.

In fact, this Texas oilman is supposed to be a huge Democratic donor but he has ties to Enron and Haliburton as well. Maybe, that is why there isn't a big push from the Bush WH.

I believe all members of the Security Council probably had their hands in the "pot', especially France and Russia.
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