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Old 12-29-2008, 08:48 PM
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I am going to need a link to that because no where did I find Phil Graham in the Republic act # 8479 many politicians were involved from both parties.

"Congress and George Bush could take a step tomorrow that would create a drop in oil prices of between 25 and 50 percent overnight, simply by closing the Enron Loophole.

This is according to testimony before a Senate Committee two weeks ago by Michael Greenberger, the former director of Trading & Markets for the Commodities Future Trading Commission (CFTC), the government board that oversees commodities markets:

“Yes, overnight [closing the Enron Loophole] will bring down the price of crude oil to get at least a 25 percent drop in the cost of oil and a corresponding drop in the cost of gasoline. Some people estimate 50 percent.”

Greenberger’s testimony was brought to light by an investigation into the Enron Loophole by Keith Olbermann on MSNBC’s “Countdown” last week. (A transcript of Olbermann’s report follows.)

The Enron Loophole is the nickname for a provision written into the Commodity Futures Modernization Act (CFMA) of 2000 that was drafted by lobbyists for Enron and inserted in the bill by then Sen. Phil Gramm (R-Texas) that deregulated an aspect of the market Enron sought to exploit with its “Enron On-Line” trading program, the first Internet-based commodities transaction system."

http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/06...op-oil-prices/


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Old 12-29-2008, 09:19 PM
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hmmm............... I think Gore suggested that would happen back in 2000. I wonder if he was also right when he suggested we should lock the Social Security funds so they could not be used for other things?

hmmm............... wonder what else he may have been right about???????????
Too bad he didn't also explain that it would cause a Worldwide Depression...

I agree with him on Social Security, except instead of just "locking" it away, I would allow a portion to be "invested" by the Individual in a limitted amount of Securities.
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Too bad he didn't also explain that it would cause a Worldwide Depression...
You are now claiming the high gas prices caused a worldwide depression?
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You are now claiming the high gas prices caused a worldwide depression?
They helped.
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american car companies could have made more fuel efficient cars too. the dealership lots here are crammed with vans trucks and SUVs. wtf are they going to do with all of them.

watch american TV and every other vehicle ad is for a big ass truck or SUV. like wtf!! so out of touch. and they have been for a long time.
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american car companies could have made more fuel efficient cars too. the dealership lots here are crammed with vans trucks and SUVs. wtf are they going to do with all of them.

watch american TV and every other vehicle ad is for a big ass truck or SUV. like wtf!! so out of touch. and they have been for a long time.

They won't be for much longer, the chickens have come home to roost!
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american car companies could have made more fuel efficient cars too. the dealership lots here are crammed with vans trucks and SUVs. wtf are they going to do with all of them.
Can't they be recycled somehow?
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Can't they be recycled somehow?


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right but wtf can i do about china? i can vote in my country for people i think will make the responsible changes. i can do (*)(*)(*)(*) all about what the chinese do. except vote for people that might pressure china to stop polluting, but i don't thinkt hey much care for what canada thinks. my rant was off topic, it was more about the economy than the environment.
ahh but China and India are the reason why the Artic ice is melting. Its not the co2 but the sulpher and nitrious oxide that they are putting off in massive amounts. Sulphur combinds with water to make sulphur dixoide which makes clouds of very fine water particles. These particles dont combine readily to make drops heavy enough to fall as rain. This cloud cover dirfts right over the Artic and warms the area melting the ice.
So what you are all saying is to destroy our ecomony, ie no employment and lots of hungry people, and ignore the real problem?
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And the reason why no one wants to buy an american made car is because they are low quality pieces of junk that are always in the shop. Thank you UAW.
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