As the corporate media continues to hand the American Public steaming heaps of pure BS about the situation in Iraq, here is another report on the real situation by one of the only free and independent journalists still remaining in that poor battered and mistreated country.
For full article, go to:

http://www.newtopiamagazine.net/cont...DahrJamail.php

Here is a sample:

Newtopia: The US Corporate media consistently characterizes the Iraqi resistance as "foreign terrorists and former Ba’athist insurgents". In your experience, is this an accurate portrayal? If not, why?

Dahr Jamail: This is propaganda of the worst kind. Most Iraqis refer to the Iraqi Resistance as “patriots.” Which of course most of them are - they are, especially in Fallujah, primarily composed of people who simply are resisting the occupation of their country by a foreign power. They are people who have had family members killed, detained, tortured and humiliated by the illegal occupiers of their shattered country. Calling them “foreign terrorists” and “Ba’athist insurgents” is simply a lie. While there are small elements of these, they are distinctly different from the Iraqi Resistance, who are now supported by, very conservatively at least 80% of the population here.

There are terrorist elements here, but that is because the borders of Iraq have been left wide open since the invasion. These did not exist in Iraq before.

The Bush regime like to refer to anyone who does not support their ideology and plans for global domination as a “terrorist.”

Here, these fighters in the Iraqi Resistance are referred to as freedom fighters, holy warriors and patriots.

I have yet to see any evidence or meet any Iraqi who has seen evidence of Al-Qaeda here. There are certainly other fighters entering Iraq from different countries, but they are a relatively small number. When we say “foreign fighters” here, we must recall that every Iraqi I’ve spoken with, views the occupiers as the foreign fighters, and not any other Arab who is coming here to fight in the resistance. Most Iraqis I speak with view these Arab fighters as brothers, and the occupiers as the “foreign fighters”.

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"Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it. " --Noam Chomsky

...and ol' sarge bellows, from here to eternity, 'we are not the foreigners in Iraq, THEY ARE!'

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"A man's work is nothing but this slow trek to rediscover, through the detours of art, those two or three great and simple images in whose presence his heart first opened."

Well, if Newtopia magazine says Dahr Jamail says it, it must all be true.

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What have you done for your people today?

they're freedom fighters killing their own citizens and beheading innocents. Thanks for the "real" story.

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Old Dahr must be on drugs. Doesn't make sense that if one is fighting for one's own "freedom" that they would be killing their own people. And they've killed more Iraqi's than they've killed Americans or British or any other coalition member.

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"What exactly is this foreign policy experience?" Obama said mockingly of the New York senator. "Was she negotiating treaties? Was she handling crises? The answer is no."

by even reading any of livefree's absurd posts, but I just could not help myself from making a statement.

As if your constant links to obscure websites that can only be defined as bias at best, your plagiarism(corporate media) in lieu of a single thought of your own, you have once and for all clearly defined yourself as irrational, stubborn, biased beyond belief, incoherent, dishonest and just plain incapable of forming an intelligent argument of your own.

And I also want to lay to rest one thing once and for all. The American media, with Fox news being the only exception, would kill to see Bush out of office. The indisputable truth of this was witnessed by the entire world during the past Presidential campaigns. Numerous(erroneous), if not downright dishonest stories about Bush(most notably the Dan Rather incident), plagued the world and the nation. So, when you say that the American corporate media, you are referring to groups that are on your end of the food chain. They are trying to accomplish the same thing you are.

In other words, you make a fool of yourself every time you type a sentence. Don't you think it is time you place your tail between your legs and run off. I do.

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"It aint over, till it's over"

First, there is no monolithic "they" doing things in Iraq to resist the occupation. There are a multitude of unconnected or loosely connected groups operating independently with a more-or-less common goal of driving out the invaders. Some of them do extreme and sometimes even stupid, counterproductive things out of overwhelming rage and desire for revenge.

Second, would you claim that the French Resistance never killed Nazi collaborators or that the American revolutionaries never killed any of the many Torries who supported King George and fought against the Revolution?

Third, nobody cares what you characters call the resistance fighters in Iraq. The important point is how the Iraqis think of them and to most Iraqis these guys are patriots and freedom fighters.

Fourth, for the Iraqis, the comparison isn't between how many Iraqis the resistance has killed compared to how many Americans they've killed, it is between how many Iraqis the resistance killed compared to how many Iraqis the Americans have killed. That ratio seems to be running about 100 times as many killed by Americans as by other Iraqis.

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"Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it. " --Noam Chomsky

How do you know that?

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Originally Posted by livefree";p=&quot First, there is no monolithic "they" doing things in Iraq to resist the occupation. There are a multitude of unconnected or loosely connected groups operating independently with a more-or-less common goal of driving out the invaders. Some of them do extreme and sometimes even stupid, counterproductive things out of overwhelming rage and desire for revenge.

A bit different from what you said earlier. So...what you are admitting now is that some of these "freedom fighters" are nothing but "invaders" themselves. They are NOT Iraqi's. So, on that point, we agree.

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Originally Posted by livefree";p=&quot Second, would you claim that the French Resistance never killed Nazi collaborators or that the American revolutionaries never killed any of the many Torries who supported King George and fought against the Revolution?

One big flaw with your questions. Margaret Hassan was not a sympathizer for the coalition. In fact, she wasn't even for the war in Iraq; she had always worked in Iraq as a humanitarian worker to help Iraqi's. There are plenty of other strictly humanitarian workers who have been kidnapped and killed by these so-called freedom fighters.

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Originally Posted by livefree";p=&quot Third, nobody cares what you characters call the resistance fighters in Iraq. The important point is how the Iraqis think of them and to most Iraqis these guys are patriots and freedom fighters.

AND of course....YOU speak for ALL OF IRAQI's, eh??? In fact, it also sounds like YOU do their thinking for them as well. Or try to.

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Originally Posted by livefree";p=&quot Fourth, for the Iraqis, the comparison isn't between how many Iraqis the resistance has killed compared to how many Americans they've killed, it is between how many Iraqis the resistance killed compared to how many Iraqis the Americans have killed. That ratio seems to be running about 100 times as many killed by Americans as by other Iraqis.

Per YOU. And you've already proven you don't know what the heck you're talking about.

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"What exactly is this foreign policy experience?" Obama said mockingly of the New York senator. "Was she negotiating treaties? Was she handling crises? The answer is no."