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Old 12-10-2004, 05:25 PM
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U.S. accuses Israel of espionage
12/9/2004 9:02:00 PM GMT


Washington accused Israeli defense officials of trying to access U.S. technological and intelligence data classified by the U.S. as top secret information, Israel’s army radio reported.

The report comes just days after the FBI raided the pro-Israel lobbying group, AIPAC, in the U.S. and interrogated AIPAC officials.

The U.S. had recently accused one of the Pentagon officials of passing classified U.S. information on Iran to Israel.

The radio also said that FBI officials had confirmed that Israeli officials who visited U.S. military sites were trying to gather confidential information on the U.S. technology.

It added that FBI agents have interrogated a number of Israeli officials over the past few months, including IDF officers, diplomats, and military industry officials.

The interrogations were during and after their visits to the U.S. and mainly concentrated on their attempts to gather classified technical and scientific data on the U.S. weapons systems, the radio said.

“Illegal subterfuge”

A seminar was held in New York two weeks ago following the FBI investigations, where the Israelis were advised on guidelines and proper conduct to avoid raising suspicions that they were engaged in illegal subterfuge.

Responding to the report, the Israeli Defense Ministry said that it was taking steps to avoid "misunderstanding that stems from different cultures and codes of behavior."

It said in a statement that it had launched a comprehensive training program in 2001 to introduce to the Israeli defense industry officials the "American way of thinking." It also confirmed that the seminar took place in New York two weeks ago.

"Numerous briefings have taken place in the ministry, in army bases and in the industries in order to clarify the rules of 'do' and 'don't,'" the statement said.

Senior Israeli officials also claimed that the whole problem stems from cultural differences, such as Israeli practices to "cut corners" or to pressure U.S. officials to provide information. They said that U.S. officials interpret these acts in a completely different way.
I don't really trust Israel and my advice to Americans is the same. They even spy on their friends.
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Old 12-11-2004, 05:29 AM
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So do we. So does everyone else.
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Old 12-11-2004, 07:08 AM
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No way, you are obviousely ignorant about the Zionist way of working. These people can not be trusted.

Zionists in the US also are in the first place loyal to Israel and not to the US. Just look at how they manipuate the US policy so it favours them.
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No way, you are obviousely ignorant about the Zionist way of working. These people can not be trusted.
And Rolex accuses Americans of being prejudiced? Can somebody say "hypocrite" and "anti-semite"? If you listen hard you can actually hear the pot calling the kettle black.

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Zionists in the US also are in the first place loyal to Israel and not to the US.
Are we generalizing here, Rolex? Isn't this the same generalization you accuse Americans of doing to Arabs in America? Of course it is.

I love when people show how ignorant they are. Always give me a good chuckle! And Rolex, this post of yours definitely proved your ignorance and gave me a good laugh.
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There is a difference between a Muslim/Negro/Asian/Mexican and Zionists. Zionists have sworn to serve Israel and only Israel above all else. They therefore cannot be trusted, especially in political functions outside Israel. And boy there are a LOT of Zionists in the US politics. It's frightening.

They will squeeze the US for everything its worth to get the things done that is best for Israel and their people.

Lucky for us, not all Jews are Zionists.
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Default Oh man, another anti-semite.

Is it just me or does everything Rolex post reflect anti-semite and anti-israel values.

If anyone can be trusted its the zionists. I would trust a zionist over you anyday.
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Is it just me or does everything Rolex post reflect anti-semite and anti-israel values.

If anyone can be trusted its the zionists. I would trust a zionist over you anyday.
Go ahead, be blind. I managed to find a list of Zionists in TOP positions during the Clinton Administration. It's just frightening. These people are loyal to Isreal in the first place and yet run the US. No wonder the US seems to be a Zionist tool without a mind of its own.



Madeleine Albright
Secretary of State
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Robert Rubin
Secretary of Treasury
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William Cohen
Secretary of Defense
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Dan Glickman
Secretary of Agriculture
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George Tenet
CIA Chief
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Samuel Berger
Head National Security Council
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Evelyn Lieberman
Deputy Chief of Staff
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Stuart Eizenstat
Under Secretary of State

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Charlene Barshefsky
U.S. Trade Representative
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Susan Thomases
Aide to First Lady
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Joel Klein
Assistant Attorney General
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Gene Sperling
National Economic Council
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Ira Magaziner
National Health Care
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Peter Tarnoff
Deputy Secretary of State
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Alice Rivlin
Ecomomic Advisory
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Janet Yellen
Chairwoman, National Economic Council
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Rahm Emanuel
Policy Advisor
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Doug Sosnik
Counsel to President
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Jim Steinberg
Deputy to National Security Chief
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Jay Footlik
Special Liason to the Jewish Community
(no other group has a special liason)
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Robert Nash
Personal Chief
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Jane Sherburne
President's Lawyer
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Mark Penn
Asia Expert to NEC
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Sandy Kristoff
Health Care Chief
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Robert Boorstin
Communications Aide
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Keith Boykin
Communications Aide
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Jeff Eller
Special Assistant to Clinton
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Tom Epstein
Health Care Adviser
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Judith Feder
National Security Council
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Richard Feinberg
Assistant Secretary Veterans
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Hershel Gober
Food and Drug Administration
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Steve Kessler
White House Counsel
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Ron Klein
Assistant Secretary Education
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Madeleine Kunin
Communications Aide
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David Kusnet
Dept. AIDS Program
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Margaret Hamburg
Dir. Press Conferences
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Many Grunwald
Liason to Jewish Leaders
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Karen Adler
Dir. State Dept. Policy
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Samuel Lewis
National Security Council
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Stanley Ross
National Security Council
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Dan Schifter
Director Peace Corps.
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Eli Segal
Deputy Chief of Staff
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Alan Greenspan
Chairman of Federal Reserve Bank
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Robert Weiner
Drug Policy Coordinator
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Jack Lew
Deputy Director Management and Budget

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James P. Rubin
Under Secretary of State
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David Lipton
Under Secretary of The Treasury
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Lanny P. Breuer
Special Counsel to The President
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Richard Holbrooke
Special Representative to NATO
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Kenneth Apfel
Chief of Social Security
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Joel Klein
Deputy Whlte Honse Counsel

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Sidney Blumenthal
Speclal Advisor to Pirst Lady
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David Kessler
Chief of Food & Drug Adininistration
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Seth Waxman
Acting Solicitor General
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Mark Penn
Presidential Pollster
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Dennis Ross
Special Middle East Representative
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Howard Shapiro
- General Counsel for the FBI
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Lanny Davis
White House Special Counsel
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Sally Katzen
Secretary of Management and Budget
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Kathleen Koch
Heads FBI Equal Opportunity Office
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John Podesta
Deputy Chief of Staff
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Alan Blinder
Vice Chairman of Federal Reserve
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Janet Yellen
Heads Council of Economlc Advisors
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Ron Klain
Chief of Staff for Al Gore
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How do you know these people are Zionists, Rolex?

Can we have a source for the site please?
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Jewdar... with a fullspectrum zion scanner.

It's the only way to be sure.
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How do you know these people are Zionists,

Jewdar... with a fullspectrum zion scanner.

It's the only way to be sure.
How did HE did a hold of Jew-dar? That's only for members of the Tribe - not gentiles!

And especially not mindless Jew-haters like Captain Juderein.


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