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Old 12-17-2004, 07:12 AM
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Default Amber Alert issued after fetus removed from mother's body.

Amber Alert issued after fetus removed from mother's body.

(CNN) -- Missouri authorities issued an Amber Alert for an infant who may have survived after a woman was slain and a fetus removed from her body.


So...if someone else takes out the kid, it warrants a missing child alert, but if a doctor does it, it's just an abortion.

Eh?
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Old 12-17-2004, 07:23 AM
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Why do such hideous things happen at Christmastime? JonBenet, Laci and now this. Couldn't murdering babies and pregnant women wait?

The baby being found alive would be some consolation.
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Default Our country is suffering from extreme ethical psychosis.

I would like the discussion of the topic of abortion to be driven by the modern abilities of medicine (which can keep fetuses alive as early as 26 weeks), not by the fanatics on either side.

Safe, sane limits on abortion based upon scientific practicalities would be a start. I feel much differently about an abortion at 4 weeks than I do one at 24 weeks. I suspect the vast majority of Americans do, as well.

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Old 12-17-2004, 08:27 AM
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Default I simply don't understand...

...how in the space of a week:

1) a man can be convicted of murdering what abortion-supporters insist isn't a person;

2)a missing child alert can be issued for what abortion-supporters insist isn't a child;

and there's not more head-scratching.

Paradox? Dichotomy? Sense, people? WTH?
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I am missing some logic here (no surprise).

In Illinois, a doc cannot perform an abortion past 22 weeks gestational. A fetus has very little hope for survival if born after only 25 weeks in the womb, I believe. I saw a 25 week gest. baby in the NICU after my daughter was born. Unreal!

Full term is 40 weeks ("but G., that's 10 months, not 9." Yeah. Ask you OB/GYN to 'splain dat for ya.). Comparing an 8 month gest. to a 22 week gest. is night an day.

Why am I rambling on? Can someone please show me where to find info, as unbiased as possible (I know, ROTFLOL), on late-term abortion, partial birth, etc. I am curious to know how rare it is, why it is done ( is it really done for the asking?), etc., etc. I just cannot imagine a doc doing a partial birth termination as an elective procedure.

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Full term is in fact 38 weeks. The 40 week number comes from the date of the woman's last period rather than the estimated date of actual conception.

In many states, an abortion cannot be had after 16 weeks. In some states it is difficult even with good reason such as detection of birth defects. I don't know if any states allow abortion later than 22 weeks.

For most people, the closer you get to viability, the more abhorrent abortion becomes. Where to draw the line is question.

Someone in Missouri apparently cut open a woman to get her baby. I don't compare that with abortion.
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Default A Loud "Gasp"

I read today that at the recent Democrat national meeting to try and figure out what went wrong and how to correct it.......there was a loud "gasp" in the room when John Kerry was asked about abortion and answered that Democrats were gong to have to find a way to be against abortion too. Meaning they are going to have to agree that there should be for a time-limit on abortions and against partial birth abortions. (Even though he's voted against the ban on PBA himself in the past). But evidently Kerry's admitting that as Democrats they are out of step with mainstream America on certain issues. And abortion is one of them.
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Default Amber Alert issued after fetus removed from mother's body

01- The baby was found alive, thank God !!!
02- I don't want to mix politics with this story. Wasn't the mother murdered.
Can we not just think for a minute or so about the poor woman was
killed and leave the argument of abortion the hell out of this terribly
sad story ?
03- I am not convinced that abortion needs to be a political issue but both
parties are equally guilty of using abortion for politics.

Again thank God that the baby was found alive !!!!!!! That is is counted here!!!! Not what Kerry said !! or what Bush thought. Or any other politician said or thought. We are talking about a tiny life here.
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Default Pure EVIL

You're right, f100. But I wasn't the one to bring abortion into this conversation.

You're also right in that the horror in this story is in the gruesome act itself. Pure EVIL. There's no other way to say it.......Pure EVIL.
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This story is an example of why I would have voted for 1st degree murder in the death of Laci Peterson's baby. The baby was viable. Some day this little baby girl will find out how she was born. I hope she has a good Daddy and large extended family. It takes a lot of love to even attempt to make up for a lost Mother.
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