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Old 01-20-2009, 05:58 AM
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Another Clinton era scam is finally ending!!! but wait wasnt Gore the liberals man for president? (*)(*)(*)(*) one con man after another is the left wings man for president.
Their latest con man for president won. Hang on to your wallets if you have any money this guy is going to have more scams to make the ecomony boom then clinton.
God these people are slaves to the media..which are owned and run by 3 big corpartions which use the media to get you to spend all the money you have and can beg borrow or steal, so the corpartions pay their CEO millions.......We be a nation of fools
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:10 AM
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Gore Losing the War: 59% Don't Believe Man Is Warming the Planet


By Noel Sheppard
January 19, 2009 - 13:28 ET


He won an Oscar and a Nobel Peace Prize, but a recent poll suggests the Global Warmingist-in-Chief Al Gore is losing his propaganda war to convince Americans carbon dioxide is destroying the planet.

In fact, the number of people who believe that long-term planetary trends are responsible for the relatively small increase in temperatures in recent decades rose ten percent since last April while those viewing it as a man-made problem has decreased by six percent.

Talk about your inconvenient truths!
This has got to be bad news for a man that has bet his reputation as well as his very fortune on people buying into his junk science. As reported by Rasmussen Reports Monday:
Forty-four percent (44%) of U.S. voters now say long-term planetary trends are the cause of global warming, compared to 41% who blame it on human activity.
Seven percent (7%) attribute global warming to some other reason, and nine percent (9%) are unsure in a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. [...]
In April of last year, 47% of Americans blamed human activity versus 34% who viewed long-term planetary trends as the culprit. But the numbers have been moving in the direction of planetary trends since then.
On the eve of the inauguration of a president that has bought this nonsense hook, line, and sinker, we can only hope Congress is paying attention to how the electorate feels about this issue.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh...warming-planet
Man is pathetic. He denies global warming out of guilt. He does not want to accept responsibility for his catastrophic selfishness and annihilative stupidity.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:13 AM
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I doubt a Global Warming Bill will be passed this year, next year or the year after. With the economic situation the country's in and the GAO's assessment that carbon cap and trade costs the taxpayers a lot and curbs carbon emissions very little if any at all.

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“The GAO’s studies of both the European and domestic carbon emissions reduction schemes have raised serious doubts about their effectiveness,” Issa said. “The federal government certainly shouldn’t spend taxpayer dollars on uncertain and unverified benefits until critical questions are fully answered.”

“The GAO report indicates that enacting a cap and trade system in the midst of a recession would only further harm our economy,” said U.S. Rep. John Shimkus, R-Ill., current ranking member on the Energy and Commerce Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee. “In addition, the whole idea of a cap and trade system isn't a proven method of actually reducing carbon emissions. The American public will end up the victims and will have to pay more for energy and many other products.”

A copy of the report can be found at:

http://republicans.energycommerce.ho...n_Programs.pdf
Not many politicians will be willing to stick their necks out and clobber an already hurting economy with the kind of inflationary spiral this bill would cause. Bill Clinton passed on Kyoto in 1998 during the economic good times because of the economic impact. Those career political hacks just like their jobs too much.
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carbon tax credits is a huge scam. who is making the money off of this ...wall street. and who is paying? the amercian people in much higher costs for energy and everything else.

Geee how dumb can we all be..
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Congratulations.

If any of that is true, the USA can now truly claim to be the Most Ignorant Nation Earth.
Ah. You must know something that has evaded top scientists.

The real congratulations goes to you.
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Ah. You must know something that has evaded top scientists.

The real congratulations goes to you.
No - I don't think I know anything that hasn't been supported by virtually every scientific academic body on Earth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scienti..._organizations

Who are these "top scientists" you claim are so clueless?
What work have they published?
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Gore Losing the War: 59% Don't Believe Man Is Warming the Planet


By Noel Sheppard
January 19, 2009 - 13:28 ET


He won an Oscar and a Nobel Peace Prize, but a recent poll suggests the Global Warmingist-in-Chief Al Gore is losing his propaganda war to convince Americans carbon dioxide is destroying the planet.

In fact, the number of people who believe that long-term planetary trends are responsible for the relatively small increase in temperatures in recent decades rose ten percent since last April while those viewing it as a man-made problem has decreased by six percent.

Talk about your inconvenient truths!
This has got to be bad news for a man that has bet his reputation as well as his very fortune on people buying into his junk science. As reported by Rasmussen Reports Monday:
Forty-four percent (44%) of U.S. voters now say long-term planetary trends are the cause of global warming, compared to 41% who blame it on human activity.
Seven percent (7%) attribute global warming to some other reason, and nine percent (9%) are unsure in a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. [...]
In April of last year, 47% of Americans blamed human activity versus 34% who viewed long-term planetary trends as the culprit. But the numbers have been moving in the direction of planetary trends since then.
On the eve of the inauguration of a president that has bought this nonsense hook, line, and sinker, we can only hope Congress is paying attention to how the electorate feels about this issue.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh...warming-planet
Unfortunately ,Gore and his fellow Warmists have already BILKED BILLION$ in their $cam.
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I'm fascinated the obstinate refusal of people to actually discuss the science. Very few people seem willing to debate the established "facts" (yes, inverted commas to placate the few skeptics still around) except in passing or derision (which is somewhat insulting to the many thousands of scientists for whom this is their life's work, but oh well - you can ignore this statement if you like).

That somehow the measured rise is entirely due to planetary effects mystifies me.
1. Solar variation - uhh, OK. I presume (and I believe I presume accurately) that by that people mean sunspot variation, the only solar cycle that I know of. If that were the driver, then we should see it go up, and down, and up, and down continually but with great consistently over a 11 (12?) year cycle, I don't see that happening.
2. Natural planetary cycle - I seriously, seriously doubt that this is a driving factor at all. Timescales, for god's sake - we would have to have been starting our trend about the time of Jesus to notice anything as a result of these paticular cycles.
3. Volcanism - Sulfur compounds are far more potent (albeit short-lived) at cooling then other compounds (synthetic ones aside) are at warming. Volcanism dampens any warming effect, it doesn't exacerbate it.

etc. etc. etc.
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LOOOL. All too true.
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1. Solar variation - uhh, OK. I presume (and I believe I presume accurately) that by that people mean sunspot variation, the only solar cycle that I know of. If that were the driver, then we should see it go up, and down, and up, and down continually but with great consistently over a 11 (12?) year cycle, I don't see that happening.
There are many different solar cycles with different periodicity that can interact in various ways. There is still much we don't understand about the sun, much less how to predict the manner in which its behavior will influence weather patterns on Earth.

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2. Natural planetary cycle - I seriously, seriously doubt that this is a driving factor at all. Timescales, for god's sake - we would have to have been starting our trend about the time of Jesus to notice anything as a result of these paticular cycles.
Again, there is much we don't know about the causes of climatic shifts, but one thing we do know is that it can and has occurred rather abruptly -- not necessarily thousands of years, but in a number you can count on your fingers. Of course, natural causes of climate change need not be cyclical.
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