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Considering the fact American Idol rankings have been diving downward the past 2 years, yes I'm shocked AI topped Obama's inaugural coverage prime time.
I am just going to go out on a limb and say it may be because the inauguration happened 8 hours before American Idol.
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And Obama received twice the media coverage Reagan did, imagine that.
I bet this doesn't take into account internet viewing, etc. Also, read about the technologies they use today to determine viewership. It is a lot different that it was 20 years ago. A lot more accurate.
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He wins on the jobs creation agenda as well, Reagan CREATED 16 million jobs during his administration of eight years, while Obama wants to create 2,3,or 4 million in his first term. How come the magic man can't offer up 8 million in his first term? I guess raising taxes on the job creators kinda drops the expectations, when tax hikes are a real job killer.

You say twice the media coverage? Most AMericans only got 3 or 4 TV stations back in 1980. I get two hundred via Dish Network.
And he also ballooned our deficit just as Obamas predecessor did. Imagine that.
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525 Electoral Votes in the Election for Ronald Wilson Reagan too.
How many did the black kid get?
"The black kid"? Now we know why Obama didn't get all the electoral votes.
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And Ronald Reagan is considered one of the greatest Presidents in U.S. history, imagine that.
Only by conservatives. Imaginie that.
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Abraham Lincoln (18%)
Ronald Reagan (16%)
John F. Kennedy (14%)
Bill Clinton (13%)
Franklin Roosevelt (9%)
Other/None/No opinion (8%)
George Washington (7%)
Harry Truman (3%)
George W. Bush (2%)
Theodore Roosevelt (2%)
Dwight Eisenhower (2%)
Thomas Jefferson (2%)
Jimmy Carter (2%)
Gerald Ford (1%)
George H.W. Bush (1%)
Richard Nixon (0%)

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Say again?
1006 American? What a poll. Where was it taken, in Iowa?
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Speaking of American Idol, did you know Idol topped Obama's inaugural speech (prime time)?


Idol trumps Obama coverage
Again, who cares.
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And he also ballooned our deficit just as Obamas predecessor did. Imagine that.
Reagan's voodoo economics is what started the US down the slide of fiscal irresponsibility. Clinton tried to reverse it, but Bush jr. screwed it even further into the dirt.
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I'm not surprised. Back when Reagan was being inaugurated, there were only about three or four TV stations for the average American - the inauguration would have been on most of them. Now the average American has about four hundred channels to choose from, so not everyone watched it; not to mention they knew they could watch it on Youtube later. We enjoyed no such luxury in 1980.


That was a major set back for the market, because otherwise failing businesses were allowed to carry on. Businesses that can't compete shouldn't be kept around, and neither should jobs that we have no demand for. If you were alive fifty years ago, would you stop the invention of automatic elevators to save the jobs of the elevator men? Surely not.


And these jobs wouldn't be outsourced overseas if it weren't for the unions forcing businesses to offer a much larger wage. Eventually, businesses get sick of this and shift their jobs overseas. Also, didn't you say you were pro bailouts? The bailouts main goal was to keep these big businesses in business even though they slipped up - now they probably will (*)(*)(*)(*) their jobs overseas. If the businesses had been allowed to fail, the workers could have opened their own business or gotten a job at a small one. There would be more competition in the market if the cartel companies were allowed to be done away with. But Bush and his liberal buddies don't want to let that happen.


You can't be pro honey without being pro bee. If you are pro worker, how is he going to work if there are no businesses left in the country? I also loved how these unions you love made General Motors pay for their employee's health care - which cost about $1000 a car; now they are going through a mas downsizing (or would be if it weren't for the bailout, but they will soon enough).
I can be pro honey and anti-sting....how about that? And let me add a caveat. I am pro-union, but with common sense and fair negotiations. I don't necessarily think it is good business practice to have unreasonable pension packages (ala Detroit Automakers), nor bonuses for management when the company is not doing well...and forget "golden parachutes" for upper mgmt.
I think the first half of the bailout was handled poorly, without the necessary oversights, or demands. If companies are at fault for their own failures, let them fail.
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