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A little perusal of the link you provided yeilded some interesting results glowdog...

http://www.tolerance.org/teens/youthact.jsp

Gay Straight Alliance Network
This youth-led organization connects school-based GSAs to each other and to community resources.


Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network
GLSEN is a national education and advocacy group supporting safe schools for all students regardless of sexual orientation, gender and gender expression.


and..


http://www.tolerance.org/teens/stories/index.jsp

Acting Like 'A Girl'

A 21-year-old Native American man explores gender stereotypes, his Native roots and sexist attitudes


MIX IT UP: Forget the Corsage

Oct. 21, 2004 -- High school senior Adam Gauzza has attended eight proms, but never with the date he desires. Prejudice and taboo have made that a risk he is not ready to take.


Leaving Hate's Stage

Oct. 28, 2004 -- All high school sophomore Lyle Qualls wants is to be himself without becoming the target of others' hate. He wishes it were that simple.


OOOO looky here... it's the KIDS section of your website...


http://www.tolerance.org/pt/index.html


"Results for GLBT early grades Document count: early (2743) grades (2632) GLBT early... (2029) GLBT (5 3210 results"

No, I do not think I will ask anyone else for a link... yours proved my point quite nicely thanks!
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No worries, sam, glowdog is such an eltist he assumes nobody will read his links thoroughly...

He provides the means to destroy his arguments..

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Sinanju and Sam, Glowdog's right.

Tolerance.org is *not* Writing for Change. They simply reference it. And their kids section never mentions homosexuality. Even if it did, so what? It's a private organization, not the public schools.

A link:
http://www.wearefamilyfoundation.org...R_ChildDVD.htm

As for the video, it's sponsored by, among others, FedEx and Disney, and arranged with the help of the AntiDefamation League. Besides SpongeBob, other characters featured include Arthur, Barney, Bear in the Big Blue House, Bob the Builder, Clifford the Big Red Dog -- basically every popular children's show.

Yeah, Definitely radical cultural assassins there.

Conservative cultural outrage might have more impact if y'all didn't seem so gullible. Getting worked up about nonsense like this makes you look silly.

Edit: Geez, what a waste of time. I even downloaded the teaching materials that go along with the video. The only reference to homosexuality is in an exercise for *high school students*, in the context of noting that the Holocaust killed not only Jews but also Gypsies, the retarded and homosexuals.

Get a grip, people.
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And the We Are Family Foundation is NOT related to or connected to the OSU DPD program. The "Spongebob" video is NOT a component of the OSU DPD program.
You remind me of the Black Knight in Monty Python’s The Holy Grail - except he was funny and you are just insufferable.

I'll take your charming, substance-free insults to mean you got nuthin'.

I present you with facts that squash your post, and you aren't man enough to admit you got it wrong.

I'd say "thanks for playing", but it wasn't that fun - you're way too easy a target.
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I'll take your charming, substance-free insults to mean you got nuthin'.
G’arn, so you think I’m charming. I’m flattered. Please try something for me - Go knock your head against the wall and let me know if you hear something small rattling around.
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A little perusal of the link you provided yeilded some interesting results glowdog...

http://www.tolerance.org/teens/youthact.jsp

Gay Straight Alliance Network
This youth-led organization connects school-based GSAs to each other and to community resources.


Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network
GLSEN is a national education and advocacy group supporting safe schools for all students regardless of sexual orientation, gender and gender expression.


and..


http://www.tolerance.org/teens/stories/index.jsp

Acting Like 'A Girl'

A 21-year-old Native American man explores gender stereotypes, his Native roots and sexist attitudes


MIX IT UP: Forget the Corsage

Oct. 21, 2004 -- High school senior Adam Gauzza has attended eight proms, but never with the date he desires. Prejudice and taboo have made that a risk he is not ready to take.


Leaving Hate's Stage

Oct. 28, 2004 -- All high school sophomore Lyle Qualls wants is to be himself without becoming the target of others' hate. He wishes it were that simple.

One, Tolerance.org and Oregon State University's Difference, Power, and Discrimination Program are NOT the same organization. Writing for Change, a teaching resource of OSU's DPD program, is merely published on the Tolerance.org site in their section devoted to a multitude of teacher resources. So referencing other sections of Tolerance.org that are devoted to resources for a wide range of ages and diversity topics is irrelevant. They have nothing to do with Writing for Change.

Two, we were discussing resources that sam erroneously claimed were intended for elementary school age children. Sexual identity issues and resources intended for highschool age teens is a whole other discussion.




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OOOO looky here... it's the KIDS section of your website...

http://www.tolerance.org/pt/index.html

Please. I urge everyone to visit the link Sinanju posted. It is an age-appropriate kids site devoted to promoting and understanding tolerance and diversity issues. It's called Planet Tolerance, and has stories and activities related to things like women's sufferage, the civil rights movement, child labor, religious diversity and multicultural understanding.

I didn't see any mention of homosexuality. I certainly didn't notice any pictures of Spongebob cavorting with lesbians.




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No, I do not think I will ask anyone else for a link... yours proved my point quite nicely thanks!

I asserted that Writing for Change was college-level curriculum, not elementary school curriculum (for 4-10 year old children).

You challenged me to back my assertion up with a link.

I did so.

Exactly what point of yours do you think I "proved"?
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Sinanju and Sam, Glowdog's right.

Tolerance.org is *not* Writing for Change. They simply reference it. And their kids section never mentions homosexuality. Even if it did, so what? It's a private organization, not the public schools.

A link:
http://www.wearefamilyfoundation.org...R_ChildDVD.htm

As for the video, it's sponsored by, among others, FedEx and Disney, and arranged with the help of the AntiDefamation League. Besides SpongeBob, other characters featured include Arthur, Barney, Bear in the Big Blue House, Bob the Builder, Clifford the Big Red Dog -- basically every popular children's show.

Yeah, Definitely radical cultural assassins there.

Conservative cultural outrage might have more impact if y'all didn't seem so gullible. Getting worked up about nonsense like this makes you look silly.

Edit: Geez, what a waste of time. I even downloaded the teaching materials that go along with the video. The only reference to homosexuality is in an exercise for *high school students*, in the context of noting that the Holocaust killed not only Jews but also Gypsies, the retarded and homosexuals.

Get a grip, people.
I never said Tolerance.org was the organization behind Writing for Change - that was your buddy, Glowdog. As far as looking silly to Liberals, quite frankly I really could care less how I look to a bunch of fools. Personally, I think using the label “gay” or “lesbian” makes a person look kind of silly because it implies that they honestly believe other people are concerned about their sexual desires.
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"One, Tolerance.org and Oregon State University's Difference, Power, and Discrimination Program are NOT the same organization. Writing for Change, a teaching resource of OSU's DPD program, is merely published on the Tolerance.org site in their section devoted to a multitude of teacher resources. So referencing other sections of Tolerance.org that are devoted to resources for a wide range of ages and diversity topics is irrelevant. They have nothing to do with Writing for Change.

The writings I quoted.. the stories... are a part of Writing for change. They are the PRODUCTS of the program.


Two, we were discussing resources that sam erroneously claimed were intended for elementary school age children. Sexual identity issues and resources intended for highschool age teens is a whole other discussion. "


Either way, it is the same organization... *I* never asserted anything. I simply showed you were wrong by USING YOUR LINK to reference the GLBT parts aimed at NON-College students.. Which debunks YOUR assertion that it only was for collegiate students and professors.

Most importantly, I could care less about the whole "spongebob" crap... I just like putting moondoggie in his place.
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Default Liberals invented term ' compulsory heterosexuality '

Social liberals love to invent terms and conditions that do not exist. Social liberals have told us that people are born gay or straight. That you cannot be forced to become a gay or a gay cannot be cured to be straight. Social liberals also invented the non existent psychological condition called "homophobia".

If some cannot be forced to be gay then how the #$%^&* can there ever be anything called "compulsory heterosexuality ' ?

Social liberals nave sunk down to the lowest strata of credibility with this one.
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What is compulsory heterosexuality?

Thank you Lord for allowing me to leave university without being anymore screwed up than I am. Compulsory heterosexuality
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