No they aren't. Where did you get that? Your butt?



Writing for Change and Tolerance.org are NOT the same organization. You can't make it true just by repeating it.

You did not debunk my assertion. Writing for Change IS college-level curriculum. That's not my opinion. It is simple, demonstrable FACT. That it is published on a site that promotes and publishes a large and varied body of information and programs related to tolerance and diversity issues for all age levels is completely irrelevant to the point I made.

Sam is still an idiot for trying to claim that the college-level Writing for Change curriculum was being shipped out by the We Are Family Foundation (which has no ties to Writing for Change) to 61,000 elementary schools, resulting in hordes of confused tykes being forced to discuss compulsory heterosexuality, homophobia, and their sexual orientation, and watch Spongebob cavort with lesbians.

And if you believe and support the false and unsubstantiated crap he posted despite the facts in evidence, then you are just as big an idiot.



Why do you keep assuming I'm a guy? Does it offend your manhood to get spanked by a woman?

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Yo, how can I get me one o' them White House press pass thingies?!

You’re wasting your time. Slowdog doesn’t like being bothered with facts. (S)he’ll just Google a phrase like “Write for Change is not pro gay,” read a couple of sentences and then will start a new round of “Let me just show you how big of a moron I am.” Trust me, it’s not worth the headache.

LoSconociuto asked / wrote compulsory heterosexuality ? --- You will have to ask some wacked out social liberal. I notice that none of the illustrious liberals on this board have bothered to comment yet. Maybe the liberals on this board are afraid that they will catch compulsory heterosexuality. Maybe there is not cure for it. maybe it means that you are not PC, that you can think for yourself.

I'm a compulsive heterosexual. Cool.

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"Tweeter was a Boyscout before she went to Vietnam and found out the hard way... nobody gives a d@mn."

Your little insultathon tirades are so transparent.

Put up or shut up, little man. What you posted was completely, blatantly, objectively false. Either post a source link (which you can't do) or admit that you just made it up (not holding my breath).

Or keep acting like a blowhard wingnut moron. Your call.

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Yo, how can I get me one o' them White House press pass thingies?!

No, Sinanju is the one who conflated those two. What *you* said is this:

Now, what is demonstrably incorrect about that is the following:

1. We Are family intends to distribute a children's video promoting diversity and tolerance, not a Writing for Change guide;

2. The Writing for Change curriculum is intended for college students, not children ages four to ten.

Can you at least admit that your original post was erroneous, and the outrage generated by it misplaced?

It's not just Liberals you look silly to when get all worked up over a demonstrably false nonevent and then can't admit you made a mistake.

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"As long as Liberals insist on shoving the subject in my face, I don’t think I will get over it until my tax dollars don’t fund it. "

"As long as Liberals insist on shoving civil rights in my face, I don’t think I will get over it until my tax dollars don’t fund it. "

"As long as Liberals insist on shoving public educationin my face, I don’t think I will get over it until my tax dollars don’t fund it. "

nice when we can now get back to the time when hatred was out in the open rather than disguised as a phony "neocon" term.

as for "shoving in face" who and which party keeps on bringing it up? makes one wonder if you are interested.....

Have to tell ya, I’m not the one getting worked up, but it looks like Snoredog is about to blow a gasket. At any rate, you are right. The We Are Family Foundation intends to distribute a DVD, not a guide. As far as the teachers guide originally referenced, it used to be located at www.wearefamilyfoundation.org/TEACHERS/Wfc.asp; however, that URL has vanished. The crux of the matter is that a lot of people are kind of sick of people who believe their sexuality is something that anyone other than themselves or their partners care to think about. Seriously, on an average day how many people do you meet whom you truly want to envision engaged in sexual situations? Whenever someone announces (s)he is gay, that person is saying “I prefer oral and anal sex.” Well, that’s just fine and dandy, more power to you, but I don’t want that image in my mind - don’t care.

Neocon... I like how Liberals are beginning to use that label - it has a nice ring to it. It’s odd that Liberals always use “gay” to show how tolerant they are and then turn around and use “gay” as an insult. Just out of curiosity, is “gay” something to be proud of, or is it something to be ridiculed for?

How can you say that? You *started* this thread!

Cool. Thank you.

I found the teacher's guide material at the Antidefamation League's site. I can't speak to what might have been at the link you cite.

Fine, though my point was that the incident you cite is not doing what you accuse it of doing. Pick a real example and we can have a substantive discussion over that.

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I’ll see if I can find out what happened to the original URL that contained the elementary school curriculum. In the meantime, what about the documentary, It's Elementary: Talking About Gay Issues in School? Here’s a brief quote from New Day Films (presumably a distributor) about the film:

...Rather than focusing on the debate between adults, though, the film takes the point of view of the school children, starting as young as first grade.

The results are surprising ... Third graders' jaws drop when they find out some of their favorite celebrities are gay...

And here’s what the film’s producers, Women’s Educational Media, have to say:

Since its release, the producers have run a remarkably successful grassroots distribution campaign, intended to make It's Elementary accessible to every conceivable type of institution working with children today. Through this effort, the film has had an unprecedented impact, creating a tidal wave of activism and public dialogue about dealing with lesbian and gay issues in schools.

Again, I don’t want my tax dollars funding this.