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Gee, where could this all lead?
www.truthout.org/032509J
We all know torturing innocents to get something/anything to hold up as some kind of 'reason' for an illegal war, was Cheney's pet project.
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Gee, where could this all lead?
www.truthout.org/032509J
We all know torturing innocents to get something/anything to hold up as some kind of 'reason' for an illegal war, was Cheney's pet project.

We tortured terrorists? Good. What's the problem?
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Are you REALLY an American???
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Wow you are really that Naive do you understand that if you were capture by any terrorist that you would be tortured night and day.

And please don't bring up well we did it tot hem they have been doing this since the mid-60s

Also one item I would like to point out while Mr. Obama might sign-off on the release of the memo before they can be released they must go thru the following Agency who will reome any and all items that are classified items.

First DOJ, then NSC, then NSA, then FBI and finally the CIA after that they will go to teh Office of the Prsedient who will have White House Council explain to him what can and can't be released under the 1947 Security Act.

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The problem is that is criminal and they hole high command of the Adolf Bush era should be in prison.
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Wow you are really that Naive do you understand that if you were capture by any terrorist that you would be tortured night and day.
And you do realize that we aren't the terrorists right? We can not be them nor stoop to their level. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABOVE THAT! See how that works?
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And you do realize that we aren't the terrorists right? We can not be them nor stoop to their level. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABOVE THAT! See how that works?
Except we don't cut there heads off on live TV and besides they have no Country so hence they don't get any special treatment.

I rather have one of them feel some discomfort that gets us information that stop another attack on Civillians.
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Wow you are really that Naive do you understand that if you were capture by any terrorist that you would be tortured night and day.
Previous enemies in previous wars tortured Americans but by and large our stance was to abide by higher principles. What has changed?
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Wow you are really that Naive do you understand that if you were capture by any terrorist that you would be tortured night and day.

And please don't bring up well we did it tot hem they have been doing this since the mid-60s

Also one item I would like to point out while Mr. Obama might sign-off on the release of the memo before they can be released they must go thru the following Agency who will reome any and all items that are classified items.

First DOJ, then NSC, then NSA, then FBI and finally the CIA after that they will go to teh Office of the Prsedient who will have White House Council explain to him what can and can't be released under the 1947 Security Act.
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Fighting to Keep the Jihad in Prisons
By Robert Spencer
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, March 26, 2009

An unlikely alliance of the American Civil Liberties Union and the Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian lawyers’ group that usually fiercely opposes the ACLU, along with several other groups, is contesting a proposed Bureau of Prisons rule that prohibits “materials that could incite, promote, or otherwise suggest the commission of violence or criminal activity” from being placed in prison chapel libraries. It would enable prison officials to remove from libraries books that they deem to be “advocating or fostering violence, vengeance or hatred toward particular religious, racial or ethnic groups” or advocating “the overthrow or destruction of the United States.”


The ACLU has framed the issue as one of religious freedom. David Shapiro, a staff attorney with the ACLU National Prison Project, explained: “BOP officials need to follow the law, not engage in the business of banning religious material. Distributing and reading religious material is as protected under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution as worshipping in churches or preaching from the pulpits. It is not the role of the government to dictate what is religiously acceptable.”


What’s more, the ACLU and its allies charge that the rule as written, with its language about material that “could…suggest” violence, is too broad, and can be applied in far too sweeping a manner. “We’re with the ACLU on this particular issue because it’s very important for religious freedom that these texts be available,” said Kevin Theriot of the ADF. “Somebody could take offense with the Bible, which teaches that Jesus is the only way to the Father. That’s an offensive idea to people who are not Christians. They could say that’s inciting trouble.” Shapiro agrees in principle: “They could remove texts that are critical to prisoners’ ability to practice their religion.” And indeed, there are indications that Bureau of Prisons officials have been overzealous in applying the law. The ACLU says that authorities have ordered removed from prison chapel libraries books that do not incite violence by any stretch of the imagination, including Moses Maimonides’ Code of Jewish Law and The Purpose Driven Life by the popular evangelical pastor Rick Warren.
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