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Mark Levin: The Thomas Paine of our Time


I have to agree with this. Levin is a modern day Thomas Paine. I listen to him when I can on 77 WABC at 6 pm each night. I have his new book "Liberty and Tyranny, A Conservative ManifestoLiberty and Tyranny, A Conservative Manifesto ", and it is like taking a US history/ Civics class.

If you are Patriotic at all, you should listen to Mark once in a while and get his book. He has other books too, but I haven't read them yet.

Now, for any statists who will say that Mark is advocating the overthrow of the US Government, that is not true. In fact, in the book he states that he is against that. Also, even though Mark espouses Conservatism based on the beliefs of the Founding Fathers, he isn't partisan. He has it in for RINOs and neo-cons just like he does for the ultra-left "statist".

The problem, according to Mark, with the "soft tyranny" that we are now moving towards in the US is that humans have a "high tolerance for suffering" (paraphrased). This fact allows the statist to inch closer to his dream of a Utopian society, at the expense of the individual's liberty and at the expense of the "Civil Society", where the individual is most highly regarded, not the collective.

I have to admit, I don't read a lot of books. But, I am reading this one now, and I highly recommend it to everyone with an ounce of Patriotic Blood in their veins.
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Mark Levin: The Thomas Paine of our Time


I have to agree with this. Levin is a modern day Thomas Paine. I listen to him when I can on 77 WABC at 6 pm each night. I have his new book "Liberty and Tyranny, A Conservative Manifesto", and it is like taking a US history/ Civics class.

If you are Patriotic at all, you should listen to Mark once in a while and get his book. He has other books too, but I haven't read them yet.

Now, for any statists who will say that Mark is advocating the overthrow of the US Government, that is not true. In fact, in the book he states that he is against that. Also, even though Mark espouses Conservatism based on the beliefs of the Founding Fathers, he isn't partisan. He has it in for RINOs and neo-cons just like he does for the ultra-left "statist".

The problem, according to Mark, with the "soft tyranny" that we are now moving towards in the US is that humans have a "high tolerance for suffering" (paraphrased). This fact allows the statist to inch closer to his dream of a Utopian society, at the expense of the individual's liberty and at the expense of the "Civil Society", where the individual is most highly regarded, not the collective.

I have to admit, I don't read a lot of books. But, I am reading this one now, and I highly recommend it to everyone with an ounce of Patriotic Blood in their veins.
The "Thomas Paine of our time"? Hardly. Thomas Paine was one of the greatest intellectual contributors to the Enlightenment, and a radical. He eschewed the traditional monarchy, railed against religious control of political institutions, and advocated "liberal" ideas like free public health care and a solid minimum wage.

Mark Levin, by contrast, is what is colloquially known as an "assclown." His first book, which was focused on the Supreme Court and their terrible practices of actually creating a check on executive power, was an unmitigated disaster that exposed him for the intellectual fraud that he is. There was a collective guffaw by constitutional legal scholars from both sides of the aisle as soon as it was published. This is a man who claims to advocate for constitutional originalism, but fails to comprehend anything about the proper place of the Supreme Court. Furthermore, he's a strong advocate of the unitary executive theory, which would strip Congress of oversight ability and give the President a free pass to do whatever he pleases without fear of Congressional repercussion. Ha! Some constitutional originalist he is.

No, Levin is more like the the pseudo-intellectual James Chalmers of our time, hanging on the coat-tails of the real Thomas Paines.
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Mark Levin: The Thomas Paine of our Time


I have to agree with this. Levin is a modern day Thomas Paine. I listen to him when I can on 77 WABC at 6 pm each night. I have his new book "Liberty and Tyranny, A Conservative Manifesto", and it is like taking a US history/ Civics class.

If you are Patriotic at all, you should listen to Mark once in a while and get his book. He has other books too, but I haven't read them yet.

Now, for any statists who will say that Mark is advocating the overthrow of the US Government, that is not true. In fact, in the book he states that he is against that. Also, even though Mark espouses Conservatism based on the beliefs of the Founding Fathers, he isn't partisan. He has it in for RINOs and neo-cons just like he does for the ultra-left "statist".

The problem, according to Mark, with the "soft tyranny" that we are now moving towards in the US is that humans have a "high tolerance for suffering" (paraphrased). This fact allows the statist to inch closer to his dream of a Utopian society, at the expense of the individual's liberty and at the expense of the "Civil Society", where the individual is most highly regarded, not the collective.

I have to admit, I don't read a lot of books. But, I am reading this one now, and I highly recommend it to everyone with an ounce of Patriotic Blood in their veins.
I read Men In Black and it was awesome too. I will read his new one as well.
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I read Men In Black and it was awesome too. I will read his new one as well.
Man, I got into Liberty and Tyranny last night. I was still reading at midnight. The sad part is, that in order to retain it I will have to read it again when I am done....lol
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I have his new book Liberty and Tyranny, A Conservative Manifesto, and it is like taking a US history/Civics class.
I highly recommend taking the classes instead.

I've listened to him a few times because his podcast is free, but he's only good for a few laughs. As misguided as his politics ae, his shtick is funnier than most Rush-wannabes.
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I highly recommend taking the classes instead.

I've listened to him a few times because his podcast is free, but he's only good for a few laughs. As misguided as his politics ae, his shtick is funnier than most Rush-wannabes.
If you consider adhering to the US Constitution "misguided", that is. Seriously Joe, read the book. You will be surprised.
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If you consider adhering to the US Constitution "misguided", that is. Seriously Joe, read the book. You will be surprised.
Sorry, I don't need a partisan hack to explain his version of the constitution to me. All judges interpret the constition differently, if it were perfectly clear, we wouldn't need them. Right-wing judges simply call their interpretation "originalism". It's the equivilent of calling oneself patriotic because they put a flag bumper sticker on their Nissan.

I'm sorry you fell for his bologna.
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The "Thomas Paine of our time"? Hardly. Thomas Paine was one of the greatest intellectual contributors to the Enlightenment, and a radical. He eschewed the traditional monarchy, railed against religious control of political institutions, and advocated "liberal" ideas like free public health care and a solid minimum wage.

Mark Levin, by contrast, is what is colloquially known as an "assclown." His first book, which was focused on the Supreme Court and their terrible practices of actually creating a check on executive power, was an unmitigated disaster that exposed him for the intellectual fraud that he is. There was a collective guffaw by constitutional legal scholars from both sides of the aisle as soon as it was published. This is a man who claims to advocate for constitutional originalism, but fails to comprehend anything about the proper place of the Supreme Court. Furthermore, he's a strong advocate of the unitary executive theory, which would strip Congress of oversight ability and give the President a free pass to do whatever he pleases without fear of Congressional repercussion. Ha! Some constitutional originalist he is.

No, Levin is more like the the pseudo-intellectual James Chalmers of our time, hanging on the coat-tails of the real Thomas Paines.
So this is what you think AFTER reading Mark levins book?
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So this is what you think AFTER reading Mark levins book?
If you see the world through the lens of a Judicial activist.
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Sorry, I don't need a partisan hack to explain his version of the constitution to me. All judges interpret the constition differently, if it were perfectly clear, we wouldn't need them. Right-wing judges simply call their interpretation "originalism". It's the equivilent of calling oneself patriotic because they put a flag bumper sticker on their Nissan.

I'm sorry you fell for his bologna.
Says the guy supporting Barack Obama....lol.
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