DHS targeting right-wingers and newly returned veterans - Page 4

REDRUM · #31 (**permalink**) 04-14-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MidlineIncision

A right wing extremist was responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing, for one thing. There obviously is a potential problem with some anti-government groups.

ROFLMAO, The Oklahoma City bombing occurred in 1995 while Bill Clinton was in office.

Last abortion clinic bombing occurred in 1998, during the Clinton administration.

Once again, Obama and the Democrats are guilty of playing the fear monger, race hatred card.

*Note* Our Department Of Homeland Security cannot name one current "right-wing extremist" organization. I'm resolved to believe our current government is without question become "The State Of The Enemy"

Birdzeye · #32 (**permalink**) 04-14-2009, 09:18 AM

I don't have a problem with them targeting "extremists," as long as they do so without regard to ideology. IOW, I hope they are also targeting left wing extremists, because sure as hell they are as dangerous as the right wing extremists.

camp_steveo · #33 (**permalink**) 04-14-2009, 10:07 AM

American Legion responds to DHS’ unwarranted fear of veterans

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Dear Secretary Napolitano,

On behalf of the 2.6 million-member American Legion, I am stating my concern about your April 7 report, “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence and Recruitment.”

First, I want to assure you that The American Legion has long shared your concern about white supremacist and anti-government groups. In 1923, when the Ku Klux Klan still yielded unspeakable influence in this country, The American Legion passed Resolution 407. It resolved, in part, “…we consider any individual, group of individuals or organizations, which creates, or fosters racial, religious or class strife among our people, or which takes into their own hands the enforcement of law, determination of guilt, or infliction of punishment, to be un-American, a menace to our liberties, and destructive to our fundamental law…”

The best that I can say about your recent report is that it is incomplete. The report states, without any statistical evidence, “The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.”

The American Legion is well aware and horrified at the pain inflicted during the Oklahoma City bombing, but Timothy McVeigh was only one of more than 42 million veterans who have worn this nation’s uniform during wartime. To continue to use McVeigh as an example of the stereotypical “disgruntled military veteran” is as unfair as using Osama bin Laden as the sole example of Islam.

Your report states that “Rightwing extremists were concerned during the 1990s with the perception that illegal immigrants were taking away American jobs through their willingness to work at significantly lower wages.” Secretary Napolitano, this is more than a perception to those who have lost their job. Would you categorize union members as “Right Wing extremists”?

In spite of this incomplete, and, I fear, politically-biased report, The American Legion and the Department of Homeland Security share many common and crucial interests, such as the Citizen Corps and disaster preparedness. Since you are a graduate of New Mexico Girls State, I trust that you are very familiar with The American Legion. I would be happy to meet with you at a time of mutual convenience to discuss issues such as border security and the war on terrorism. I think it is important for all of us to remember that Americans are not the enemy. The terrorists are.

Well put Sir!

KOD · #34 (**permalink**) 04-14-2009, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Birdzeye

I don't have a problem with them targeting "extremists," as long as they do so without regard to ideology. IOW, I hope they are also targeting left wing extremists, because sure as hell they are as dangerous as the right wing extremists.

What most of you folks don't get is that with America's conversion to a new system nearly complete, conservatism/capitalism in general is considered 'extremist." Democrats have won the final battle.

What did Bush say?............."if you're not with us, you're agin us." Well, no truer words were ever spoken. Today, with Obama's agenda of hope and change that we voted into power, if you're not on board with our Socialist/Communist movement towards progress and away from the obsolete Constitution, then you are an enemy to society and a 'right-wing extremist.' Thankfully, you will be silenced and 'contained.'

Birdzeye · #35 (**permalink**) 04-14-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KOD

What most of you folks don't get is that with America's conversion to a new system nearly complete, conservatism/capitalism in general is considered 'extremist." Democrats have won the final battle.

What did Bush say?............."if you're not with us, you're agin us." Well, no truer words were ever spoken. Today, with Obama's agenda of hope and change that we voted into power, if you're not on board with our Socialist/Communist movement towards progress and away from the obsolete Constitution, then you are an enemy to society and a 'right-wing extremist.' Thankfully, you will be silenced and 'contained.'

What a crock.

Hey, I was pretty paranoid about what BushCo would do to those of us who didn't support him. Fortunately, my fears turned out to be unfounded.

justabubba · #36 (**permalink**) 04-14-2009, 10:49 AM

what is this talk about violating veterans' rights?
that document is nothing more than a primer for LEOs to recognize prospective recruits to extremist causes
it was rather limited, in my opinion, because it overlooked the crazies who are willing to drink the religious kool aid
but nowhere within that nine page document did i see any discussion of any action which would deprive one of their rights for holding extremist opinions and views

the shrub has gone. the administration's maxim is no longer "be afraid, be very afraid"

TheHat · #37 (**permalink**) 04-14-2009, 11:44 AM

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"...rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority..."

So in other words, states no longer have rights under the US Federal Government is what they are saying.

Its hard to believe, but the US Federal Government is preparing to outlaw Federalism.

What rationale and what hard facts are there to support these claims from DHS?

When did states having rights become a treasonous crime?

Sly · #38 (**permalink**) 04-14-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KSigMason

So out of the fear of the .gov Veterans are going to have their rights restricted?! The .gov expects us to give our life to our country, but when we return they take away our rights because of some fear of a radical movement? This leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I thought the right was OK with the feds spying on Americans? If they have nothing to hide, everything will be fine.

justabubba · #39 (**permalink**) 04-14-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I thought the right was OK with the feds spying on Americans? If they have nothing to hide, everything will be fine.

throwing that one back in their faces had to leave a mark

amazing how their views flipped 180 degrees effective noon, january 20

TheHat · #40 (**permalink**) 04-14-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I thought the right was OK with the feds spying on Americans? If they have nothing to hide, everything will be fine.

Feds were spying on Americans? Which ones exactly?

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