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Old 04-13-2009, 08:27 AM
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Name one Muslim Founding Father.

Name a Muslim that signed the Declaration of Independence.

Name a Muslim that signed the Articles of Confederation.

Name a Muslim that signed The Constitution.

Name one famous Muslim that has help shaped America as our Idiot-N-Chief falsely asserts.

Islam is a faith that intends to conquer the world through violence.

Blabbity bla bla.

I realize that you like to post videos of evangelical masturbatory fodder that is Parsley in an attempt to get a rise out of me. Unfortunately, I wrote him and his followers off as uneducated and bigoted morons long ago.

If you are not aware of the Islamic Golden Age then I do not know what to tell you.
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Old 04-13-2009, 08:29 AM
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My OP was specifically referring to President Obama's statement that Muslims had helped shape America, not the world.
But you see America is in the world it is not a world of its own. Our culture allows muslims to live here and blacks, hispanic, whites, irish, indian, all have had good influence on America and some has had negative effects on it as well. It may be on a small level in comparison but one can choose to point that out. Because even if two muslims helped America which they do all the time in fighting the war on terror.(where do you think intellegence comes from?) You can say muslims have help shape America. Its not a false statement. You can argue an exaggerated statement but definetly not a false one.
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Blabbity bla bla.

I realize that you like to post videos of evangelical masturbatory fodder that is Parsley in an attempt to get a rise out of me. Unfortunately, I wrote him and his followers off as uneducated and bigoted morons long ago.

If you are not aware of the Islamic Golden Age then I do not know what to tell you.
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Name one Muslim Founding Father.

Name a Muslim that signed the Declaration of Independence.

Name a Muslim that signed the Articles of Confederation.

Name a Muslim that signed The Constitution.

Name one famous Muslim that has help shaped America as our Idiot-N-Chief falsely asserts.
"Islam has done so much to shape America"





As expected you couldn't answer not one of my questions TFM.

Bigot - A person who wins an argument with a liberal.
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Old 04-13-2009, 08:33 AM
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As expected you couldn't answer not one of my questions TFM.
Sorry I do not wish to play the "stroke the Christian simpleton's ego" game. My feelings regarding Parsley and other idiot Christians is well known. Your post was nothing more than flame bait, so don't break your arm clapping yourself on the back.

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Bigot - A person who wins an argument with a liberal.
Here's another version.

Bigot: A person that denies fact, science, history in order to maintain their baseless fallacies and build themselves up by tearing down other religions while not realizing their own is just as silly.
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Also, this comment by President Obama is untruthful. It is not true, and it takes away from the historical nature of our own culture. America is a melting pot. We accept people from all cultures. This is NOTHING like most Islamic countries
You would actualy be amazed at how tolerant Islamic cultures are that don't percieve themselves to be under threat. When they think they are...like us after 911, they close ranks. Turkey, Syria, and Israel are huge melting pots but tolerance varies. While the Saudiis, Yemeniis, and Arabian Penninsula countries are not tolerant of anything. Iraq has Kurds, Shiite, and Sunnii. I think what makes the US special are the laws against discrimination on the basis of race and ethnicity.

You mentioned we accept people from all cultures and I was amazed last week where I saw a Muslim group saying that less than a handfull of anti Muslim incidents have occured in the US since 2001. That says a lot about us.
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Goldwater, you have a point there, but I firmly believe that a main tenant of President Obama's foreign policy is to appease our enemies whenever possible. This is the same as offering unilateral talks with Iran after Iran called for the destruction of Israel and is seeking nuclear weaponry. Appeasement is for fools.

Also, this comment by President Obama is untruthful. It is not true, and it takes away from the historical nature of our own culture. America is a melting pot. We accept people from all cultures. This is NOTHING like most Islamic countries, in fact it is the opposite. How is it acceptable for our President to put forth inaccuracies when discussing American history abroad?
What you're are deliberately deciding to call appeasement is acting less belligerent and bellicose than the previous administration. There are limits to American power. It is difficult to take out a guy with and rpg with a high tech targeting system from 22,000 feet. The sooner we acknowledge this the sooner we can better defend ourselves. We really cannot go to war with every individual who speaks harshly at the United States. I know, saying that makes us liberals sound weak. If we were listening to the righty's on the forum here we would now be at war with NKorea and Pakistan and invading Somalia, and building up troops on Russia's border for the eminent attack.

Turkey is important to America's security and regional interests. Stating some hyperbole to give the impression of common ground is good politics and the good will pay off potentially is worth a lot more than your level of hormones.

Psssst, here's a secret, I got this on good authority, were not going to launch a missile at every foreigner who says death to America. Just Sayin...
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:12 AM
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There is a huge movement in the Muslim world that advocates an Islamic state of North America. Here is the affect that many Muslims would like to see take place in our country. This will never happen, but now you see what many of them want to accomplish.

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Now, if this happens, then President Obama's words will be true.
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:15 AM
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What you're are deliberately deciding to call appeasement is acting less belligerent and bellicose than the previous administration. There are limits to American power. It is difficult to take out a guy with and rpg with a high tech targeting system from 22,000 feet. The sooner we acknowledge this the sooner we can better defend ourselves. We really cannot go to war with every individual who speaks harshly at the United States. I know, saying that makes us liberals sound weak. If we were listening to the righty's on the forum here we would now be at war with NKorea and Pakistan and invading Somalia, and building up troops on Russia's border for the eminent attack.

Turkey is important to America's security and regional interests. Stating some hyperbole to give the impression of common ground is good politics and the good will pay off potentially is worth a lot more than your level of hormones.

Psssst, here's a secret, I got this on good authority, were not going to launch a missile at every foreigner who says death to America. Just Sayin...
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* “I’ve made it clear, Madam President, that the war against terrorism is not a war against Muslims, nor is it a war against Arabs. It’s a war against evil people who conduct crimes against innocent people.” — Remarks by President George W. Bush and President Megawati of Indonesia The Oval Office, Washington, D.C. September 19, 2001

* “The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That’s not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don’t represent peace. They represent evil and war.” — Remarks by the President at Islamic Center of Washington, D.C. Washington, D.C. September 17, 2001

* “All of us here today understand this: We do not fight Islam, we fight against evil.” — Remarks by President George W. Bush to the Warsaw Conference on Combating Terrorism November 6, 2001

* “I have assured His Majesty that our war is against evil, not against Islam. There are thousands of Muslims who proudly call themselves Americans, and they know what I know — that the Muslim faith is based upon peace and love and compassion. The exact opposite of the teachings of the al Qaeda organization, which is based upon evil and hate and destruction.” — Remarks by President George W. Bush and His Majesty King Abdullah of Jordan The Oval Office, Washington, D.C. September 28, 2001

* “Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions. Our enemy does not. Our enemy doesn’t follow the great traditions of Islam. They’ve hijacked a great religion.” – Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Afghanistan Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Washington, D.C. October 11, 2002
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Name one Muslim Founding Father.

Name a Muslim that signed the Declaration of Independence.

Name a Muslim that signed the Articles of Confederation.

Name a Muslim that signed The Constitution.

Name one famous Muslim that has help shaped America as our Idiot-N-Chief falsely asserts.

Islam is a faith that intends to conquer the world through violence.

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Rod Parsley - The Deception of Allah (Silent No More)
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