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Old 03-12-2005, 11:52 PM
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Default Terrorists can buy arms in the US

Terrorists can buy arms in the US

U.S. Allows Suspects To Buy Guns, CBS News Mar 8

Ain't it great! The Neocons insist that the right to purchase arms is absolute. So much so that the potential terrorists can purchase some really nice fire power al long as they got cash or plastic!

"More than 40 terror suspects bought firearms in the United States last year. In each case, background checks showed the buyer had no felony convictions and was not an illegal immigrant, according to a government report released Tuesday.

The report by the Government Accountability Office pointed to at least 40 purchases of guns in a nine-month study period by people named on an FBI watch list. More than 50,000 people are under "investigation or surveillance" for "possible terrorist or gang-related activities.""
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in678811.shtml
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So what? They passed the background check just like I do. If these people are terrorist suspects then I'm guessing that our law enforcement organizations are using the Patriot Act to follow and spy on them.

This subject has already been done under current events. And (though I hate to admit it) Myopicmouse said it best when he asked:
If you were suspected of a car robbery would you like it if you were not allowed to vote?


I can already speculate what will become of this subject if the government steps in to do something:More Gun Control Laws
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Terrorists are going to have guns whether we make it legal or not.

The best defense, then, is to have an armed populace.

Ever heard of Switzerland?
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Default Easy fix

Once the government proves its case against any of these people, they'll have felony(?) convictions on their records and will no longer be able to (legally) purchase firearms.

If the government does not or cannot prove its case... should people be penalized over what some government spook claims?

Innocent until proven guilty.

I'm all in favor of holding onto that.
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Terrorists are going to have guns whether we make it legal or not.

The best defense, then, is to have an armed populace.

Ever heard of Switzerland?
I like it! that's known as the Archie Bunker principal. The way you stop plane hijackings is to issue each passenger at the beginning of the flight a 45 and check the guns back in at the end. Ha Ha!
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So what? They passed the background check just like I do. If these people are terrorist suspects then I'm guessing that our law enforcement organizations are using the Patriot Act to follow and spy on them.

This subject has already been done under current events. And (though I hate to admit it) Myopicmouse said it best when he asked:
If you were suspected of a car robbery would you like it if you were not allowed to vote?


I can already speculate what will become of this subject if the government steps in to do something: More Gun Control Laws
There is a background check for getting guns? That's news to me. You go to the little window in some government place and offer up a drivers license and you pay them $10. They you get a permit to purchase three guns. They you go to the gun store and answer no to 10 questions or whatever and you wait the waiting period and you buy your gun.

Is it different these days?
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So what? They passed the background check just like I do. If these people are terrorist suspects then I'm guessing that our law enforcement organizations are using the Patriot Act to follow and spy on them.

This subject has already been done under current events. And (though I hate to admit it) Myopicmouse said it best when he asked:
If you were suspected of a car robbery would you like it if you were not allowed to vote?


I can already speculate what will become of this subject if the government steps in to do something: More Gun Control Laws
There is a background check for getting guns? That's news to me. You go to the little window in some government place and offer up a drivers license and you pay them $10. They you get a permit to purchase three guns. They you go to the gun store and answer no to 10 questions or whatever and you wait the waiting period and you buy your gun.

Is it different these days?
when u show ur drivers licence, i suspect they would use that info to preform a backround check.
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I like it! that's known as the Archie Bunker principal. The way you stop plane hijackings is to issue each passenger at the beginning of the flight a 45 and check the guns back in at the end. Ha Ha!
That was cute, but unfortunately, you didn't provide a substantive response to my argument, which is probably because you're wrong and you know it.

Giving pilots guns and training would probably be an excellent way to prevent hijackings but for some reason people seem opposed to that idea.

However, the 9/11 hijackers used knives, not guns, so this discussion has nothing to do with airplanes.


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There is a background check for getting guns? That's news to me. You go to the little window in some government place and offer up a drivers license and you pay them $10. They you get a permit to purchase three guns. They you go to the gun store and answer no to 10 questions or whatever and you wait the waiting period and you buy your gun.

Is it different these days?
Why do you think there is a waiting period? Why do you think they make you give them your driver's license?
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There is a background check for getting guns? That's news to me. You go to the little window in some government place and offer up a drivers license and you pay them $10. They you get a permit to purchase three guns. They you go to the gun store and answer no to 10 questions or whatever and you wait the waiting period and you buy your gun.

Is it different these days?
When you buy a rifle, you give them your license and your Social Security number and the store either has a computer linked with the FBI or they have to call it in. The FBI then checks your background
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Terrorists are going to have guns whether we make it legal or not.

The best defense, then, is to have an armed populace.

Ever heard of Switzerland?
I like it! that's known as the Archie Bunker principal. The way you stop plane hijackings is to issue each passenger at the beginning of the flight a 45 and check the guns back in at the end. Ha Ha!
Great idea. This would end planes being used for any other purpose than to get people from one place to another. They should start it today!
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