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No Junior the only one on here that is Brainwashed is you and your fellow Countrymen. how about this why not travel to Syria and go look at the Mass grave sites then come back and tell me that they weren't real.

Oh wait you strike me of all the typical Turks that I have either worked with or meet in denial over your past and when someone says something bad about turkey you all jump up and down and scream bloody murder get a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing grip on this thing called Life.
Mass graves are also in Eastern Turkey, 517.955 Turks were murdered by Armenians... Your are one-sided, and only read Armenian sources, so you are brainwashed. I also read Armenian sources, they are contradicted, they are all estimated, without no certain proof.


Armenians claim that "Ottoman Army killed about 1,5 million Armenian victims during the year 1915" or some says, Turks killed 2 million Armenians so they create those sentence according to their daily mood

and every year, 24 April(so tomorrow), they go so-called genocide monuments and make propaganda.

Genocide claims are lie because there is no certain demographic data about Ottoman Armenians and the numbers are ridiculous...

See...

1.British Annual Register 1917 writes 1.056.000 (Large difference with claimed genocide number)

2. According to Armenian historian, Patriarch Ormanyan, 1.579.000 (Acceptable)

3. The Armenian historian Kevork Aslan, total 1.800.000 (Acceptable)

4. German Priest Johannes Lepsius, 1.600.000

5. Cuinet, 1.045.018

6. The French Yellow Book, 1.475.011 (less than 1,5 million )

7. The Armenian historian Basmajian, 2.280.000 ( , probably they included Armenians in Armenia - where was conquered from Ottoman Empire by Russia in begining of the 19. century)

8. (Armenian) Patriarch Nerses Varjabedyan, 1.150.000 (less than 1,5 million )

9. Ottoman census statistics for 1893, 1.001.465
Ottoman census statistics for 1906, 1.120.748
Ottoman census statistics for 1914, 1.221.850
(I personally accept this, because this my government's archive, and you see this less than 1,5 million

FOOTNOTES

1)Annual Record of Britannica, 1917

2)Uras, Esat, Armenians in history and Armenian Issue, Istanbul 1987

3)Aslan, Kevork, Armenia and Armenians, Istanbul 1914.

4)Uras, Esat, a.g.e.

5)Uras, Esat, a.g.e.

6)1893-1897 Ermeni Isleri, Paris, 1897 Uras, Esat, a.g.e.

7)Uras, Esat, a.g.e.

8 ) Uras, Esat, a.g.e.

9)Mazici, Nursen, Belgelerle Uluslar arasi Rekabette Ermeni Sorunu, Istanbul 1987.



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Lets accept Armenian Historian, Kevork Aslan's population claim (Actually, I do not accept), 1.800.000

Suppose that Barbaric Turks() massacred about 1,500.000 Armenians, how many Armenians stayed alive ? about 300.000

How many Armenians live in the World today ? Lets look at the Wikipedia

It says total 8 millions population in the World today. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenians )

and lets exclude Armenians in Russia(1,100,000) and Armenia(3,200,000)

8,000,000 - (3,200,000 + 1,100,000) = 3,700,000 Armenian Diaspora

Can 3,700,000 diaspora population occur from 300,000 in 94 years? ? ?
answer now


Now, think with logic!


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Mass graves are also in Eastern Turkey, 517.955 Turks were murdered by Armenians... Your are one-sided, and only read Armenian sources, so you are brainwashed. I also read Armenian sources, they are contradicted, they are all estimated, without no certain proof.


Armenians claim that "Ottoman Army killed about 1,5 million Armenian victims during the year 1915" and every year, 24 April(so tomorrow), they go so-called genocide monuments and make propaganda.

Genocide claims are lie because there is no certain demographic data about Ottoman Armenians and the numbers are ridiculous...

See...

1.British Annual Register 1917 writes 1.056.000 (Large difference with claimed genocide number)

2. According to Armenian historian, Patriarch Ormanyan, 1.579.000 (Acceptable)

3. The Armenian historian Kevork Aslan, total 1.800.000 (Acceptable)

4. German Priest Johannes Lepsius, 1.600.000

5. Cuinet, 1.045.018

6. The French Yellow Book, 1.475.011 (less than 1,5 million )

7. The Armenian historian Basmajian, 2.280.000 ( , probably they included Armenians in Armenia - where was conquered from Ottoman Empire by Russia in begining of the 19. century)

8. (Armenian) Patriarch Nerses Varjabedyan, 1.150.000 (less than 1,5 million )

9. Ottoman census statistics for 1893, 1.001.465
Ottoman census statistics for 1906, 1.120.748
Ottoman census statistics for 1914, 1.221.850
(I personally accept this, because this my government's archive, and you see this less than 1,5 million

FOOTNOTES

1)Annual Record of Britannica, 1917

2)Uras, Esat, Armenians in history and Armenian Issue, Istanbul 1987

3)Aslan, Kevork, Armenia and Armenians, Istanbul 1914.

4)Uras, Esat, a.g.e.

5)Uras, Esat, a.g.e.

6)1893-1897 Ermeni Isleri, Paris, 1897 Uras, Esat, a.g.e.

7)Uras, Esat, a.g.e.

8 ) Uras, Esat, a.g.e.

9)Mazici, Nursen, Belgelerle Uluslar arasi Rekabette Ermeni Sorunu, Istanbul 1987.



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Lets accept Armenian Historian, Kevork Aslan's population claim (Actually, I do not accept), 1.800.000

Suppose that Barbaric Turks() massacred about 1,500.000 Armenians, how many Armenians stayed alive ? about 300.000

How many Armenians live in the World today ? Lets look at the Wikipedia

It says total 8 millions population in the World today. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenians )

and lets exclude Armenians in Russia(1,100,000) and Armenia(3,200,000)

8,000,000 - (3,200,000 + 1,100,000) = 3,700,000 Armenian Diaspora

Can 3,700,000 diaspora population occur from 300,000 in 94 years? ? ?
answer now


Now, think with logic!


And 6.5 Million Jews were killed by Nazi Germany or you saying that never happen either.
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And 6.5 Million Jews were killed by Nazi Germany or you saying that never happen either.
Nope,

Don't change the topic. I never said something like that.

My post is clear and my personal belief, both nations are criminal.

Armenians killed Turks and Turks killed Armenians, so this is not genocide.
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inferiority complex that is why they want to join the EU and be part of a civilzed world. If there are any Europeans who feel any inferiority they are the the traitors and hafbreeds of the Balkans who became Muslim dogs during the occupation by the barbarians. It was my people the Ukrainian Koazks who stopped your monsters from going into Eastern Europe.

You guys had you chance to keep a civilzed religion such as Christianity but chose the religion of terrorists. You will be sorry some day.
Nope

Turks do not want to join EU 55%-60%

But Ukranians want it because of inferiority complex Btw, who wants you sheep Ukranians, European Union do not want to take you, NATO do not want to admit you.

You always cry because of Russia, you always cry because of Ottomans Turkey and by nation converted Islam very before Arab terrorists and Al-Quade

Ukrania is historically Turkish land, you came there very soon.

We created there European Hun Empire(Huns were Turkic), Khazaria, Pecheneg Khanate, Avar Khanate, Tathar Khanate, Ottoman Empire




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The rally is intended to inform Americans that Armenian allegations on the incidents of 1915 are groundless and false.

The rally, which will be held in Times square, is sponsored by the Young Turks Association under the umbrella of the Federation of Turkish-American Associations.

The rally is a reply to the demonstration on “genocide” claims that will be held by Armenian Diaspora in the same square on April 26.

The Azerbaijanis living in the US will also participate in the rally.


SOURCE: http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=100297

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Hmm, Armenians always seized opportunities to do make their lie genocide propaganda when there is no Turk to prevent them especially in California, but in New York, we are there!

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