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Old 03-31-2005, 07:13 AM
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Default Perhaps.....

it would be best to drop it and move on. It's over and done with and there is literally nothing we can do about it. Except let the Religous Right puppet the GOP into flogging Terri's struggle (though I am not sure about the amount of effort she went through, honestly) into a political move to create an excuse for the gov't to intervene in citizen's private lives even more. Funny how they harp the "less and weaker national government = good issue" isn't it?
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Old 03-31-2005, 07:15 AM
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Oh, you mean those of us who believe that human life shouldn't be destroyed simply because it comes in an inconvenient form, and who find the work of *bioethicists* like Peter Singer who are at the forefront of the euthanasia movement to be disturbing and nauseating in it's contempt for the miracle of life?
I'm more on your side than not. I don't believe society has much business deciding who's "worth" keeping alive and who's not, as long as society (i.e. taxpayers) isn't being asked to pay for that upkeep.

But I also don't think that principle extends to poking one's nose into a family's private tragedy.

Terri's case turned into a circus. My comment was meant to reflect my disgusted expectation that the next Terri-like circus is just around the corner.
I agree with you about not allowing the courts to decide WHO is worth saving... but this was strictly a case about determining the wishes of someone who was unable to speak for themselves... It was covered in more depth than any single medical case I have ever seen....

This was nothing more than the Schindlers and Randall Terry using the most gullible and silly among us to harrass Micheal Schiavo and "make his life hell"(schindler quote from USAToday)
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Old 03-31-2005, 07:17 AM
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Default Your limited grasp of rhetoric is made abundantly clear in

the way you resort to logical fallacies while having your ass spanked (metaphorically, of course, the idea of envisioning your actual sexual proclivities makes me ill).

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Like Randall "bye-bye wifey, hello INTERN!" Terry?

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Provide a source that substantiates your claim that Randall Terry is my leader...

This is a textbook example of the use of a form of fallacious reasoning known prejudicial language, attempting to link me to a controversial and polarizing figure in an attempt to discredit me.

Just a word to the wise, Sinanju. People who have a real argument don't have to engage in false and diverting forms of argumentation.



A word to the wise, Sinanju. People with a real argument to make don't have to resort to such tactics, only those with no real skill or a logical basis for their debate position.
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"Just a word to the wise, Sinanju. People who have a real argument don't have to engage in false and diverting forms of argumentation."

and

"while having your ass spanked (metaphorically, of course, the idea of envisioning your actual sexual proclivities makes me ill)."

I have no need to explain this to you catz, others who read it will understand it though.

Let's keep this discussion on topic. Point scoring is not necessary in this thread.

This applies to ALL posters.....

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Default Public policies, private ramifications...

Raytri,

Until our society sorts out the issue of euthanasia (and abortion, and a host of other equally controversial topics), it is entirely likely that any individual case with broader policy ramifications will indeed become a circus, and will be used as a poster child by the extremists on either side...both sides intent on shaping the public's perceptions of the issue.

Such is life in a constitutional republic/democracy.

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Default Can you say civil law suit?

My prayer is Terri's parents will file a $100 million civil law suit against Porno Moustache for neglect in caring for their daughter. Maybe they could hire the Breck Girl to handle the suit.
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Default Well, dear...

You would actually have had to provide an actual argument, versus only insults directed at me, for me to respond with an actual position.

The best possible response for insulting and non-substantive posts such as yours is mockery, and I have responded as requested.

Let's keep this discussion on topic. Point scoring is not necessary in this thread.

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Default They can file whatever they want.

But I would think that 7 years worth of court rulings going against their thoughts on the matter would make it tough for them to win. Especially since the ultimate decision was not even made my Michael, but by the court.
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Default Does life have to meet an arbitrary standard of worthiness

to be protected?

Not in my book.

It's existence is enough. I would say that the opposite is true...a compelling reason should exist for doing as was done in Terri's case...actively causing death.

And the fact that Terri's existence did not conform to your internal and arbitrary standards of worthiness is simply not a compelling argument for depriving her of it.

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